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Date: 14 Nov 2008 19:33:58
From:
Subject: top selling ball
does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrmance
bowling ball is ? just curious.




 
Date: 03 Dec 2008 08:24:17
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
Excellent stuff.

Many thanks. :)

ed


 
Date: 01 Dec 2008 13:15:10
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: top selling ball
> Back in the day, i remember one point of the soak discussion involved
> core separation; folks experienced that lovely phenomenon if they
> didn't in some way cover the holes, or so the thinking went. =A0In the
> last few weeks, I've had chats with others who say that core
> separation is not an issue with the hot water soak method and that the
> heat is what might cause core separation.
>
> Any thoughts from anyone on that?

Any time you apply heat to an object constructed from "dissimilar
materials", you will run the risk of the materials "separating" from
each other. Just search for the Mythbuster's segment on the effects
of microwaving JAWBREAKER BALL CANDY.

The main thing to watch when rejuvenating a bowling ball is HOW LONG
the ball is exposed to the heat (whether via hot water or "dry" heat),
and HOW MANY CYCLES you do the exposure. Secondly, ALLOW THE BALL TO
THOROUGHLY COOL (i.e., get back to "room temperature") by "natural
means" (IOW, DO NOT toss it in the refrigerator or put it outside in
the Winter Night) before using it - this allows All Parts of the ball
to return to "thermal stability".

That's my thoughts, etc.... :)


 
Date: 01 Dec 2008 10:53:06
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
Along these rejuv lines of thought....

Back in the day, i remember one point of the soak discussion involved
core separation; folks experienced that lovely phenomenon if they
didn't in some way cover the holes, or so the thinking went. In the
last few weeks, I've had chats with others who say that core
separation is not an issue with the hot water soak method and that the
heat is what might cause core separation.

Any thoughts from anyone on that?

-ed



On 28, 9:42=A0am, PromptJock <102151.3...@compuserve.com > wrote:
> > To be a bit more topical and less nostalgic ;), I used to worry about
> > that, but got a restoration from a hot water bath with an old Blue
> > Wolf, back in the day. =A0Just hot tap water, not sure if I should've
> > gone with the dishwasher method or not.
>
> IMO, using an automatic dishwasher works very well as the hot water
> (with detergent?) is always "circulating" around the ball and
> therefore "flushing" the surface. =A0HOWEVER, you have to be careful
> about using the "heated dry" setting - it might get a little too warm.
>
> Having typed that, I don't know if I'd use it because I prefer to have
> the ball SOAK in the "detergenated" hot water - I can then monitor the
> progress of the "extraction", as well as the "exposure time" to the
> water.
>
> To each his/her own, I guess - as long as Your Method Works For You! :)



  
Date: 01 Dec 2008 19:27:17
From: litefrozen
Subject: Re: top selling ball
nrjyzr@gmail.com wrote:
> Along these rejuv lines of thought....
>
> Back in the day, i remember one point of the soak discussion involved
> core separation; folks experienced that lovely phenomenon if they
> didn't in some way cover the holes, or so the thinking went. In the
> last few weeks, I've had chats with others who say that core
> separation is not an issue with the hot water soak method and that the
> heat is what might cause core separation.
>
> Any thoughts from anyone on that?
>
> -ed

I've never heard of core separation with the soaking method. That was
just happening using the oven method. It may have happened with those
who used boiling water, cause thats too hot for the soaking method.


 
Date: 28 Nov 2008 07:42:14
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: top selling ball
> To be a bit more topical and less nostalgic ;), I used to worry about
> that, but got a restoration from a hot water bath with an old Blue
> Wolf, back in the day. =A0Just hot tap water, not sure if I should've
> gone with the dishwasher method or not.

IMO, using an automatic dishwasher works very well as the hot water
(with detergent?) is always "circulating" around the ball and
therefore "flushing" the surface. HOWEVER, you have to be careful
about using the "heated dry" setting - it might get a little too warm.

Having typed that, I don't know if I'd use it because I prefer to have
the ball SOAK in the "detergenated" hot water - I can then monitor the
progress of the "extraction", as well as the "exposure time" to the
water.

To each his/her own, I guess - as long as Your Method Works For You! :)


 
Date: 27 Nov 2008 15:14:27
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
Wow, that brings back some old memories of discussions back when I was
here in the 90s...

To be a bit more topical and less nostalgic ;), I used to worry about
that, but got a restoration from a hot water bath with an old Blue
Wolf, back in the day. Just hot tap water, not sure if I should've
gone with the dishwasher method or not.


On 27, 12:07=A0am, "Darlene Block" <tenpinhawk...@mchsi.com > wrote:
> Some people swear by the dishwasher/oven methods. Others say that what th=
ey
> are getting out of the ball is not oil but resin. I prefer to use cleaner=
s
> that are sold by the ball companies just to be safe.
> Dar
>
> "PromptJock" <102151.3...@compuserve.com> wrote
>
> >> > I gave my Illusion a hot water bath a little over a week ago and I w=
as
> >> > ** AMAZED ** at how much oil came out of it! it also RESTORED the
> >> > reaction that I'd lost because of the absorbed oil.
>
> >> did you use anything other than hot water ? I heard my black widdow is
> >> a poris ball and soakes up oil like a mother. I use trax clean & dull
> >> after I bowl and it seems to work good, by the look of all the black
> >> stuff on the paper towles I am cleaning with. I thought because my pro=
-
> >> shop guy was former pro bowler I could rely on his info, but I get so
> >> many differnt opinion's from so many differnt people it is hard to
> >> assertain the truth.
>
> > I use standard store-brand liquid dishwashing detergent in hot water
> > for a couple of "cycles", then I use a small amount of "LA's Totally
> > Awesome" spray cleaner in the hot water for the remaining soak cycles
> > (this is GOOD STUFF! a 1:3 mix makes an EXCELLENT all-around spray
> > cleaner.) =A0Both detergents break-down the seeped-out oil so I can
> > easily remove it from the surface. =A0When I finish, the surface is
> > close to "box finish". =A0I then put the ball on a display cup on a
> > table and let it air/dry and cool overnight. =A0If I deem it necessary,
> > I'll do a very light "scuffing" of the surface with a green "scotch-
> > brite" pad, after spraying on a layer of "Totally Awesome" to help
> > reduce the friction, etc., then I wipe the ball off with a dry cloth.
> > This last operation helps "open the pores" of the surface, aiding its'
> > "traction, etc."
>
> > How often you have to 'bleed" the ball is dependent on how often you
> > bowl. =A0I bowl 5 leagues, plus whatever "extra practice" time I can ge=
t
> > in (comes to between 16-25 games a week!) and I find I have to "bleed"
> > my balls once every 2 months.
>
> > FWIW, I'd use "clean-n-dull" if I had a spinner to properly apply it.
> > I have used the "Powerhouse" stuff and I'm very impressed with it,
> > however I can't generate enough even pressure to really "work it in"
> > to the surface to really do a good job. =A0Maybe within the year I'll
> > get myself a spinner setup so I can "properly" clean, etc. my gear. :)
>
> > Hope this helps. :)



 
Date: 26 Nov 2008 22:02:49
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: top selling ball
> > I gave my Illusion a hot water bath a little over a week ago and I was
> > ** AMAZED ** at how much oil came out of it! it also RESTORED the
> > reaction that I'd lost because of the absorbed oil.
>
> did you use anything other than hot water ? I heard my black widdow is
> a poris ball and soakes up oil like a mother. I use trax clean & dull
> after I bowl and it seems to work good, by the look of all the black
> stuff on the paper towles I am cleaning with. I thought because my pro-
> shop guy was former pro bowler I could rely on his info, but I get so
> many differnt opinion's from so many differnt people it is hard to
> assertain the truth.

I use standard store-brand liquid dishwashing detergent in hot water
for a couple of "cycles", then I use a small amount of "LA's Totally
Awesome" spray cleaner in the hot water for the remaining soak cycles
(this is GOOD STUFF! a 1:3 mix makes an EXCELLENT all-around spray
cleaner.) Both detergents break-down the seeped-out oil so I can
easily remove it from the surface. When I finish, the surface is
close to "box finish". I then put the ball on a display cup on a
table and let it air/dry and cool overnight. If I deem it necessary,
I'll do a very light "scuffing" of the surface with a green "scotch-
brite" pad, after spraying on a layer of "Totally Awesome" to help
reduce the friction, etc., then I wipe the ball off with a dry cloth.
This last operation helps "open the pores" of the surface, aiding its'
"traction, etc."

How often you have to 'bleed" the ball is dependent on how often you
bowl. I bowl 5 leagues, plus whatever "extra practice" time I can get
in (comes to between 16-25 games a week!) and I find I have to "bleed"
my balls once every 2 months.

FWIW, I'd use "clean-n-dull" if I had a spinner to properly apply it.
I have used the "Powerhouse" stuff and I'm very impressed with it,
however I can't generate enough even pressure to really "work it in"
to the surface to really do a good job. Maybe within the year I'll
get myself a spinner setup so I can "properly" clean, etc. my gear. :)

Hope this helps. :)


  
Date: 27 Nov 2008 06:07:42
From: Darlene Block
Subject: Re: top selling ball
Some people swear by the dishwasher/oven methods. Others say that what they
are getting out of the ball is not oil but resin. I prefer to use cleaners
that are sold by the ball companies just to be safe.
Dar

"PromptJock" <102151.3223@compuserve.com > wrote
>> > I gave my Illusion a hot water bath a little over a week ago and I was
>> > ** AMAZED ** at how much oil came out of it! it also RESTORED the
>> > reaction that I'd lost because of the absorbed oil.
>>
>> did you use anything other than hot water ? I heard my black widdow is
>> a poris ball and soakes up oil like a mother. I use trax clean & dull
>> after I bowl and it seems to work good, by the look of all the black
>> stuff on the paper towles I am cleaning with. I thought because my pro-
>> shop guy was former pro bowler I could rely on his info, but I get so
>> many differnt opinion's from so many differnt people it is hard to
>> assertain the truth.
>
> I use standard store-brand liquid dishwashing detergent in hot water
> for a couple of "cycles", then I use a small amount of "LA's Totally
> Awesome" spray cleaner in the hot water for the remaining soak cycles
> (this is GOOD STUFF! a 1:3 mix makes an EXCELLENT all-around spray
> cleaner.) Both detergents break-down the seeped-out oil so I can
> easily remove it from the surface. When I finish, the surface is
> close to "box finish". I then put the ball on a display cup on a
> table and let it air/dry and cool overnight. If I deem it necessary,
> I'll do a very light "scuffing" of the surface with a green "scotch-
> brite" pad, after spraying on a layer of "Totally Awesome" to help
> reduce the friction, etc., then I wipe the ball off with a dry cloth.
> This last operation helps "open the pores" of the surface, aiding its'
> "traction, etc."
>
> How often you have to 'bleed" the ball is dependent on how often you
> bowl. I bowl 5 leagues, plus whatever "extra practice" time I can get
> in (comes to between 16-25 games a week!) and I find I have to "bleed"
> my balls once every 2 months.
>
> FWIW, I'd use "clean-n-dull" if I had a spinner to properly apply it.
> I have used the "Powerhouse" stuff and I'm very impressed with it,
> however I can't generate enough even pressure to really "work it in"
> to the surface to really do a good job. Maybe within the year I'll
> get myself a spinner setup so I can "properly" clean, etc. my gear. :)
>
> Hope this helps. :)




 
Date: 26 Nov 2008 16:54:16
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 26, 4:41=A0pm, PromptJock <102151.3...@compuserve.com > wrote:
> > I give my equipment hot water baths every 30 games and I get all of
> > the oil out. =A0No change in reaction.
>
> I gave my Illusion a hot water bath a little over a week ago and I was
> ** AMAZED ** at how much oil came out of it! it also RESTORED the
> reaction that I'd lost because of the absorbed oil.

did you use anything other than hot water ? I heard my black widdow is
a poris ball and soakes up oil like a mother. I use trax clean & dull
after I bowl and it seems to work good, by the look of all the black
stuff on the paper towles I am cleaning with. I thought because my pro-
shop guy was former pro bowler I could rely on his info, but I get so
many differnt opinion's from so many differnt people it is hard to
assertain the truth.


 
Date: 26 Nov 2008 16:41:08
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: top selling ball
> I give my equipment hot water baths every 30 games and I get all of
> the oil out. =A0No change in reaction.

I gave my Illusion a hot water bath a little over a week ago and I was
** AMAZED ** at how much oil came out of it! it also RESTORED the
reaction that I'd lost because of the absorbed oil.


 
Date: 26 Nov 2008 14:31:02
From: GenPounder
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 25, 11:13=A0am, spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> On 25, 5:23=A0am, GenPounder <darby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 24, 8:28=A0pm, "Darlene Block" <tenpinhawk...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> > > Thanks for your opinion, good info on personal experience is what kee=
ps this
> > > group going. We have several ideas and can decide for ourselves what =
we
> > > want. I'm still leaning toward the Cell Pearl.
> > > Dar
> > > <spr272...@netzero.net> wrote
>
> > > On 17, 8:44 am, GenPounder <darby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 16, 8:10 pm, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership> wrote:
>
> > > > > 01dyna wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 16 2008 11:20:33 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@moth=
ership >
> > > > > > you wrote:
>
> > > > > >> spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> > > > > >>> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfr=
mance
> > > > > >>> bowling ball is ? just curious.
> > > > > >> While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell w=
ould be
> > > > > >> a
> > > > > >> top contender for ball of the year.
>
> > > > > > why would you say that? Because of how many people use it in yo=
ur
> > > > > > area? Nobody uses it around here..that's why I ask.
>
> > > > > And just because nobody uses it where your at, Would that mean th=
at it
> > > > > couldn't be Contender?
>
> > > > > As for how many use it here. There's not that many at my main hou=
se (I
> > > > > have one in my arsenal). But they are selling well at the other h=
ouses
> > > > > around the area. And being used to great advantage.
>
> > > > > But I base my statement on the ball reviews and the discussions o=
n the
> > > > > other bowling sites and forums that I visit ( Heres a good
> > > > > onehttp://www.ballreviews.com/).
>
> > > > > Plus from what I've seen in the bowling magazines (like Bowling T=
his
> > > > > Month) and from talking with other bowlers who travel around to m=
ore
> > > > > houses than I do ( such as guys on the regional tour).
>
> > > > > So the statement that the Cell could be a contender for ball of t=
he year
> > > > > is founded on good grounds.
>
> > > > > What ball would you suggest?
>
> > > > I second that the Cell would be the ball of the year. By me, it was
> > > > flying off of the shelves. The Cell Pearl was sold out before it ev=
en
> > > > hit the shelves.
>
> > > > This year at Nationals, I saw at least 2-3 cells on every pair. On =
my
> > > > pair, there were 6 of them on the rack at any one time and 1 of the
> > > > girls I bowled with had another one in her bag.
>
> > > > The Cell was Rotos best selling ball within 6 weeks of release. Guy=
s
> > > > bowling on tour love it cause you can drill it so many different wa=
ys
> > > > and changing the cover really alters the movement. Scroggins had 12
> > > > of them and Danny Wiseman had 9 in his bag last season.- Hide quote=
d
> > > > text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > I was asking the pro shop guy about trading in my old ball's for a
> > > cell and both he and pro bowler dave husted who ownes the alley I was
> > > at, both told me that it was the same as the storm "special agent"
> > > that I already had. they advised me to stick with my current lineup,a=
s
> > > did this group. (special agent, black widdow, morich"seek&destroy" an=
d
> > > my t-zone spare ball). so I just blew some coin on a four ball roller
> > > bag for $150. I could have got it cheaper on the internet, but if
> > > anything goes wrong with it ( like my last bag ), you have to pay
> > > shipping both way's about $50.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > My Cell has a definate different movement than my Special Agent. =A0Bot=
h
> > are drilled for an even roll. =A0The Cell hooks more. =A0Right now, I h=
ave
> > it at 4000 for my house shot and my Special at 2000. =A0I get an extra
> > 5-7 boards out of my Cell.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I asume your cell is a new ball and your special agent is a old one,
> which would explain why it does not hook as much. just a guess. but
> the core and coverstock are identical.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

???? The Dimension and the Cell have similar cores. The Special
Agent is no where near the Cell.

I give my equipment hot water baths every 30 games and I get all of
the oil out. No change in reaction.


 
Date: 26 Nov 2008 06:12:18
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 26, 12:58=A0am, spr272...@netzero.net wrote:

> make that ernie schlegle

The information regarding the balls under discussion being identical
is not correct.

The Agents predated the Cell and use a different core design. Hank
worked on the Cell core for a couple years to get the differentials
the way he wanted to produce a different shape movement downlane.
Having learned from the Cell development Roto and Storm applied the
concepts to the shape lock core. It is not the same core as seen in
the Cell and Cell Pearl. Coverstocks have always been different
chemistries between Storm and Roto.

FWIW, others such as Mo Pinel, were working on the same problem that
Hank was when he developed the Cell. The idea was to create a strong
mass bias core that wouldn't flare out too early for stronger players.
Hank got there first with the Cell and now others are borrowing the
same concept of equalizing differential across the core.

If you want to learn more about the development of the Cell, RotoGrip
taped the seminar for this ball in which Hank describes the ball
development. You can find the videos on You Tube in the RotoGrip area.

Mark



 
Date: 25 Nov 2008 22:06:31
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: top selling ball
> While the balls have some similar spec's they are not the same ball.

You may not realize it, but you just made a TRULY ** PROFOUND **
STATEMENT there!

I know many people who "shop by spec" in regards to getting balls,
rather than actually "comparing performance". IOW, while the basic
specs like Rg, Differential, top weight, reactive or particle cover,
etc. are important, by no means do they totally "describe" how the
ball actually "performs".

Buddiesproshop.com has VERY EXCELLENT videos of many balls that you
can (and should!) view BEFORE deciding on getting a new ball. In
fact, many (if not all?) of those videos are on YouTube (just search
on the brand and model: i.e., "rotogrip, illusion") and they are very
informative. Some of the ball makers' web sites also have similar
videos (Lanemasters.com is one).

Finally, ALWAYS CONSULT YOUR BALL DRILLER, especially if he/she is at
all familiar with your Style Of Bowling. Sometimes all one needs is a
layout alteration on a favorite ball, or even a lesson (or three?),
rather than a Brand New Ball, to get that "extra edge" needed to drop
more pins. :)


 
Date: 25 Nov 2008 21:58:59
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 25, 9:31=A0pm, spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> On 24, 6:21=A0pm, spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 17, 8:44=A0am, GenPounder <darby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 16, 8:10=A0pm, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership> wrote:
>
> > > > 01dyna wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 16 2008 11:20:33 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mother=
ship >
> > > > > you wrote:
>
> > > > >> spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> > > > >>> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrma=
nce
> > > > >>> bowling ball is ? just curious.
> > > > >> While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell wou=
ld be a
> > > > >> top contender for ball of the year.
>
> > > > > why would you say that? =A0Because of how many people use it in y=
our
> > > > > area? =A0Nobody uses it around here..that's why I ask.
>
> > > > And just because nobody uses it where your at, Would that mean that=
it
> > > > couldn't be Contender?
>
> > > > As for how many use it here. There's not that many at my main house=
(I
> > > > have one in my arsenal). But they are selling well at the other hou=
ses
> > > > around the area. And being used to great advantage.
>
> > > > But I base my statement on the ball reviews and the discussions on =
the
> > > > other bowling sites and forums that I visit ( Heres a good onehttp:=
//www.ballreviews.com/).
>
> > > > Plus from what I've seen in the bowling magazines (like Bowling Thi=
s
> > > > Month) and from talking with other bowlers who travel around to mor=
e
> > > > houses than I do ( such as guys on the regional tour).
>
> > > > So the statement that the Cell could be a contender for ball of the=
year
> > > > is founded on good grounds.
>
> > > > What ball would you suggest?
>
> > > I second that the Cell would be the ball of the year. =A0By me, it wa=
s
> > > flying off of the shelves. =A0The Cell Pearl was sold out before it e=
ven
> > > hit the shelves.
>
> > > This year at Nationals, I saw at least 2-3 cells on every pair. =A0On=
my
> > > pair, there were 6 of them on the rack at any one time and 1 of the
> > > girls I bowled with had another one in her bag.
>
> > > The Cell was Rotos best selling ball within 6 weeks of release. =A0Gu=
ys
> > > bowling on tour love it cause you can drill it so many different ways
> > > and changing the cover really alters the movement. =A0Scroggins had 1=
2
> > > of them and Danny Wiseman had 9 in his bag last season.- Hide quoted =
text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I was asking the pro shop guy about trading in my old ball's for a
> > cell and both he and pro bowler dave husted who ownes the alley I was
> > at, both told me that it was the same as the storm "special agent"
> > that I already had. they advised me to stick with my current lineup,as
> > did this group. (special agent, black widdow, morich"seek&destroy" and
> > my t-zone spare ball). so I just blew some coin on a four ball roller
> > bag for $150. I could have got it cheaper on the internet, but if
> > anything goes wrong with it ( like my last bag ), you have to pay
> > shipping both way's about $50.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> oop's, wrong pro bowler. it was not dave husted, but was actually
> ernie schlegal. don't know if I spelled that correctly.- Hide quoted text=
-
>
> - Show quoted text -

make that ernie schlegle


 
Date: 25 Nov 2008 21:31:36
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 24, 6:21=A0pm, spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> On 17, 8:44=A0am, GenPounder <darby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 16, 8:10=A0pm, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership> wrote:
>
> > > 01dyna wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 16 2008 11:20:33 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothersh=
ip >
> > > > you wrote:
>
> > > >> spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> > > >>> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrmanc=
e
> > > >>> bowling ball is ? just curious.
> > > >> While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell would=
be a
> > > >> top contender for ball of the year.
>
> > > > why would you say that? =A0Because of how many people use it in you=
r
> > > > area? =A0Nobody uses it around here..that's why I ask.
>
> > > And just because nobody uses it where your at, Would that mean that i=
t
> > > couldn't be Contender?
>
> > > As for how many use it here. There's not that many at my main house (=
I
> > > have one in my arsenal). But they are selling well at the other house=
s
> > > around the area. And being used to great advantage.
>
> > > But I base my statement on the ball reviews and the discussions on th=
e
> > > other bowling sites and forums that I visit ( Heres a good onehttp://=
www.ballreviews.com/).
>
> > > Plus from what I've seen in the bowling magazines (like Bowling This
> > > Month) and from talking with other bowlers who travel around to more
> > > houses than I do ( such as guys on the regional tour).
>
> > > So the statement that the Cell could be a contender for ball of the y=
ear
> > > is founded on good grounds.
>
> > > What ball would you suggest?
>
> > I second that the Cell would be the ball of the year. =A0By me, it was
> > flying off of the shelves. =A0The Cell Pearl was sold out before it eve=
n
> > hit the shelves.
>
> > This year at Nationals, I saw at least 2-3 cells on every pair. =A0On m=
y
> > pair, there were 6 of them on the rack at any one time and 1 of the
> > girls I bowled with had another one in her bag.
>
> > The Cell was Rotos best selling ball within 6 weeks of release. =A0Guys
> > bowling on tour love it cause you can drill it so many different ways
> > and changing the cover really alters the movement. =A0Scroggins had 12
> > of them and Danny Wiseman had 9 in his bag last season.- Hide quoted te=
xt -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I was asking the pro shop guy about trading in my old ball's for a
> cell and both he and pro bowler dave husted who ownes the alley I was
> at, both told me that it was the same as the storm "special agent"
> that I already had. they advised me to stick with my current lineup,as
> did this group. (special agent, black widdow, morich"seek&destroy" and
> my t-zone spare ball). so I just blew some coin on a four ball roller
> bag for $150. I could have got it cheaper on the internet, but if
> anything goes wrong with it ( like my last bag ), you have to pay
> shipping both way's about $50.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

oop's, wrong pro bowler. it was not dave husted, but was actually
ernie schlegal. don't know if I spelled that correctly.


 
Date: 25 Nov 2008 09:13:45
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 25, 5:23=A0am, GenPounder <darby...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 24, 8:28=A0pm, "Darlene Block" <tenpinhawk...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks for your opinion, good info on personal experience is what keeps=
this
> > group going. We have several ideas and can decide for ourselves what we
> > want. I'm still leaning toward the Cell Pearl.
> > Dar
> > <spr272...@netzero.net> wrote
>
> > On 17, 8:44 am, GenPounder <darby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 16, 8:10 pm, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership> wrote:
>
> > > > 01dyna wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 16 2008 11:20:33 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mother=
ship >
> > > > > you wrote:
>
> > > > >> spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> > > > >>> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrma=
nce
> > > > >>> bowling ball is ? just curious.
> > > > >> While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell wou=
ld be
> > > > >> a
> > > > >> top contender for ball of the year.
>
> > > > > why would you say that? Because of how many people use it in your
> > > > > area? Nobody uses it around here..that's why I ask.
>
> > > > And just because nobody uses it where your at, Would that mean that=
it
> > > > couldn't be Contender?
>
> > > > As for how many use it here. There's not that many at my main house=
(I
> > > > have one in my arsenal). But they are selling well at the other hou=
ses
> > > > around the area. And being used to great advantage.
>
> > > > But I base my statement on the ball reviews and the discussions on =
the
> > > > other bowling sites and forums that I visit ( Heres a good
> > > > onehttp://www.ballreviews.com/).
>
> > > > Plus from what I've seen in the bowling magazines (like Bowling Thi=
s
> > > > Month) and from talking with other bowlers who travel around to mor=
e
> > > > houses than I do ( such as guys on the regional tour).
>
> > > > So the statement that the Cell could be a contender for ball of the=
year
> > > > is founded on good grounds.
>
> > > > What ball would you suggest?
>
> > > I second that the Cell would be the ball of the year. By me, it was
> > > flying off of the shelves. The Cell Pearl was sold out before it even
> > > hit the shelves.
>
> > > This year at Nationals, I saw at least 2-3 cells on every pair. On my
> > > pair, there were 6 of them on the rack at any one time and 1 of the
> > > girls I bowled with had another one in her bag.
>
> > > The Cell was Rotos best selling ball within 6 weeks of release. Guys
> > > bowling on tour love it cause you can drill it so many different ways
> > > and changing the cover really alters the movement. Scroggins had 12
> > > of them and Danny Wiseman had 9 in his bag last season.- Hide quoted
> > > text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I was asking the pro shop guy about trading in my old ball's for a
> > cell and both he and pro bowler dave husted who ownes the alley I was
> > at, both told me that it was the same as the storm "special agent"
> > that I already had. they advised me to stick with my current lineup,as
> > did this group. (special agent, black widdow, morich"seek&destroy" and
> > my t-zone spare ball). so I just blew some coin on a four ball roller
> > bag for $150. I could have got it cheaper on the internet, but if
> > anything goes wrong with it ( like my last bag ), you have to pay
> > shipping both way's about $50.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> My Cell has a definate different movement than my Special Agent. =A0Both
> are drilled for an even roll. =A0The Cell hooks more. =A0Right now, I hav=
e
> it at 4000 for my house shot and my Special at 2000. =A0I get an extra
> 5-7 boards out of my Cell.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I asume your cell is a new ball and your special agent is a old one,
which would explain why it does not hook as much. just a guess. but
the core and coverstock are identical.


  
Date: 25 Nov 2008 22:40:41
From: litefrozen
Subject: Re: top selling ball
spr272000@netzero.net wrote:
> I asume your cell is a new ball and your special agent is a old one,
> which would explain why it does not hook as much. just a guess. but
> the core and coverstock are identical.

The Cores and coverstocks are "NOT" identical on the Cell and Special Agent.
The Special Agent uses the EMC™ weight block, which is light bulb shaped
core And the coverstock is a newer ver. of the old Reactor coverstock.
See core here-
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=11&BallID=776

The Cell uses the Nucleus™ core, which is a asymmetrical core, which is
kind of a block shape. The coverstock is rotogrips cytoplasmic coverstock.
See core here-
http://www.ballreviews.com/Reviews/Reviews.asp?ManufacterID=15&BallID=861

While the balls have some similar spec's they are not the same ball.


 
Date: 25 Nov 2008 06:31:30
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
Ah, it was so much easier to do this when I had no clue, back about 15
years ago. Just get two balls, one hooks way more than the other, no
need to worry about early/late roll, arc or skid/flip, etc. LOL

Damn geek tendencies. ;)

-ed



 
Date: 25 Nov 2008 05:23:16
From: GenPounder
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 24, 8:28=A0pm, "Darlene Block" <tenpinhawk...@mchsi.com > wrote:
> Thanks for your opinion, good info on personal experience is what keeps t=
his
> group going. We have several ideas and can decide for ourselves what we
> want. I'm still leaning toward the Cell Pearl.
> Dar
> <spr272...@netzero.net> wrote
>
> On 17, 8:44 am, GenPounder <darby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 16, 8:10 pm, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership> wrote:
>
> > > 01dyna wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 16 2008 11:20:33 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothersh=
ip >
> > > > you wrote:
>
> > > >> spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> > > >>> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrmanc=
e
> > > >>> bowling ball is ? just curious.
> > > >> While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell would=
be
> > > >> a
> > > >> top contender for ball of the year.
>
> > > > why would you say that? Because of how many people use it in your
> > > > area? Nobody uses it around here..that's why I ask.
>
> > > And just because nobody uses it where your at, Would that mean that i=
t
> > > couldn't be Contender?
>
> > > As for how many use it here. There's not that many at my main house (=
I
> > > have one in my arsenal). But they are selling well at the other house=
s
> > > around the area. And being used to great advantage.
>
> > > But I base my statement on the ball reviews and the discussions on th=
e
> > > other bowling sites and forums that I visit ( Heres a good
> > > onehttp://www.ballreviews.com/).
>
> > > Plus from what I've seen in the bowling magazines (like Bowling This
> > > Month) and from talking with other bowlers who travel around to more
> > > houses than I do ( such as guys on the regional tour).
>
> > > So the statement that the Cell could be a contender for ball of the y=
ear
> > > is founded on good grounds.
>
> > > What ball would you suggest?
>
> > I second that the Cell would be the ball of the year. By me, it was
> > flying off of the shelves. The Cell Pearl was sold out before it even
> > hit the shelves.
>
> > This year at Nationals, I saw at least 2-3 cells on every pair. On my
> > pair, there were 6 of them on the rack at any one time and 1 of the
> > girls I bowled with had another one in her bag.
>
> > The Cell was Rotos best selling ball within 6 weeks of release. Guys
> > bowling on tour love it cause you can drill it so many different ways
> > and changing the cover really alters the movement. Scroggins had 12
> > of them and Danny Wiseman had 9 in his bag last season.- Hide quoted
> > text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I was asking the pro shop guy about trading in my old ball's for a
> cell and both he and pro bowler dave husted who ownes the alley I was
> at, both told me that it was the same as the storm "special agent"
> that I already had. they advised me to stick with my current lineup,as
> did this group. (special agent, black widdow, morich"seek&destroy" and
> my t-zone spare ball). so I just blew some coin on a four ball roller
> bag for $150. I could have got it cheaper on the internet, but if
> anything goes wrong with it ( like my last bag ), you have to pay
> shipping both way's about $50.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

My Cell has a definate different movement than my Special Agent. Both
are drilled for an even roll. The Cell hooks more. Right now, I have
it at 4000 for my house shot and my Special at 2000. I get an extra
5-7 boards out of my Cell.


 
Date: 24 Nov 2008 21:29:03
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 24, 6:28=A0pm, "Darlene Block" <tenpinhawk...@mchsi.com > wrote:
> Thanks for your opinion, good info on personal experience is what keeps t=
his
> group going. We have several ideas and can decide for ourselves what we
> want. I'm still leaning toward the Cell Pearl.
> Dar
> <spr272...@netzero.net> wrote
>
> On 17, 8:44 am, GenPounder <darby...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 16, 8:10 pm, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership> wrote:
>
> > > 01dyna wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 16 2008 11:20:33 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothersh=
ip >
> > > > you wrote:
>
> > > >> spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> > > >>> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrmanc=
e
> > > >>> bowling ball is ? just curious.
> > > >> While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell would=
be
> > > >> a
> > > >> top contender for ball of the year.
>
> > > > why would you say that? Because of how many people use it in your
> > > > area? Nobody uses it around here..that's why I ask.
>
> > > And just because nobody uses it where your at, Would that mean that i=
t
> > > couldn't be Contender?
>
> > > As for how many use it here. There's not that many at my main house (=
I
> > > have one in my arsenal). But they are selling well at the other house=
s
> > > around the area. And being used to great advantage.
>
> > > But I base my statement on the ball reviews and the discussions on th=
e
> > > other bowling sites and forums that I visit ( Heres a good
> > > onehttp://www.ballreviews.com/).
>
> > > Plus from what I've seen in the bowling magazines (like Bowling This
> > > Month) and from talking with other bowlers who travel around to more
> > > houses than I do ( such as guys on the regional tour).
>
> > > So the statement that the Cell could be a contender for ball of the y=
ear
> > > is founded on good grounds.
>
> > > What ball would you suggest?
>
> > I second that the Cell would be the ball of the year. By me, it was
> > flying off of the shelves. The Cell Pearl was sold out before it even
> > hit the shelves.
>
> > This year at Nationals, I saw at least 2-3 cells on every pair. On my
> > pair, there were 6 of them on the rack at any one time and 1 of the
> > girls I bowled with had another one in her bag.
>
> > The Cell was Rotos best selling ball within 6 weeks of release. Guys
> > bowling on tour love it cause you can drill it so many different ways
> > and changing the cover really alters the movement. Scroggins had 12
> > of them and Danny Wiseman had 9 in his bag last season.- Hide quoted
> > text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I was asking the pro shop guy about trading in my old ball's for a
> cell and both he and pro bowler dave husted who ownes the alley I was
> at, both told me that it was the same as the storm "special agent"
> that I already had. they advised me to stick with my current lineup,as
> did this group. (special agent, black widdow, morich"seek&destroy" and
> my t-zone spare ball). so I just blew some coin on a four ball roller
> bag for $150. I could have got it cheaper on the internet, but if
> anything goes wrong with it ( like my last bag ), you have to pay
> shipping both way's about $50.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

my point was that that manufactures remake the same balls under
different names as a marketing tool. I was not suggesting anyone not
buy the cell, just making a observation. both of the guy's I was
talking about were on the pba tour, I asume they know what there
talking about.


 
Date: 24 Nov 2008 18:21:14
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 17, 8:44=A0am, GenPounder <darby...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 16, 8:10=A0pm, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > 01dyna wrote:
> > > On Sun, 16 2008 11:20:33 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership=
>
> > > you wrote:
>
> > >> spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> > >>> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrmance
> > >>> bowling ball is ? just curious.
> > >> While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell would b=
e a
> > >> top contender for ball of the year.
>
> > > why would you say that? =A0Because of how many people use it in your
> > > area? =A0Nobody uses it around here..that's why I ask.
>
> > And just because nobody uses it where your at, Would that mean that it
> > couldn't be Contender?
>
> > As for how many use it here. There's not that many at my main house (I
> > have one in my arsenal). But they are selling well at the other houses
> > around the area. And being used to great advantage.
>
> > But I base my statement on the ball reviews and the discussions on the
> > other bowling sites and forums that I visit ( Heres a good onehttp://ww=
w.ballreviews.com/).
>
> > Plus from what I've seen in the bowling magazines (like Bowling This
> > Month) and from talking with other bowlers who travel around to more
> > houses than I do ( such as guys on the regional tour).
>
> > So the statement that the Cell could be a contender for ball of the yea=
r
> > is founded on good grounds.
>
> > What ball would you suggest?
>
> I second that the Cell would be the ball of the year. =A0By me, it was
> flying off of the shelves. =A0The Cell Pearl was sold out before it even
> hit the shelves.
>
> This year at Nationals, I saw at least 2-3 cells on every pair. =A0On my
> pair, there were 6 of them on the rack at any one time and 1 of the
> girls I bowled with had another one in her bag.
>
> The Cell was Rotos best selling ball within 6 weeks of release. =A0Guys
> bowling on tour love it cause you can drill it so many different ways
> and changing the cover really alters the movement. =A0Scroggins had 12
> of them and Danny Wiseman had 9 in his bag last season.- Hide quoted text=
-
>
> - Show quoted text -

I was asking the pro shop guy about trading in my old ball's for a
cell and both he and pro bowler dave husted who ownes the alley I was
at, both told me that it was the same as the storm "special agent"
that I already had. they advised me to stick with my current lineup,as
did this group. (special agent, black widdow, morich"seek&destroy" and
my t-zone spare ball). so I just blew some coin on a four ball roller
bag for $150. I could have got it cheaper on the internet, but if
anything goes wrong with it ( like my last bag ), you have to pay
shipping both way's about $50.


  
Date: 25 Nov 2008 02:28:03
From: Darlene Block
Subject: Re: top selling ball
Thanks for your opinion, good info on personal experience is what keeps this
group going. We have several ideas and can decide for ourselves what we
want. I'm still leaning toward the Cell Pearl.
Dar
<spr272000@netzero.net > wrote

On 17, 8:44 am, GenPounder <darby...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 16, 8:10 pm, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership> wrote:

>
> > 01dyna wrote:
> > > On Sun, 16 2008 11:20:33 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership>
> > > you wrote:
>
> > >> spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> > >>> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrmance
> > >>> bowling ball is ? just curious.
> > >> While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell would be
> > >> a
> > >> top contender for ball of the year.
>
> > > why would you say that? Because of how many people use it in your
> > > area? Nobody uses it around here..that's why I ask.
>
> > And just because nobody uses it where your at, Would that mean that it
> > couldn't be Contender?
>
> > As for how many use it here. There's not that many at my main house (I
> > have one in my arsenal). But they are selling well at the other houses
> > around the area. And being used to great advantage.
>
> > But I base my statement on the ball reviews and the discussions on the
> > other bowling sites and forums that I visit ( Heres a good
> > onehttp://www.ballreviews.com/).
>
> > Plus from what I've seen in the bowling magazines (like Bowling This
> > Month) and from talking with other bowlers who travel around to more
> > houses than I do ( such as guys on the regional tour).
>
> > So the statement that the Cell could be a contender for ball of the year
> > is founded on good grounds.
>
> > What ball would you suggest?
>
> I second that the Cell would be the ball of the year. By me, it was
> flying off of the shelves. The Cell Pearl was sold out before it even
> hit the shelves.
>
> This year at Nationals, I saw at least 2-3 cells on every pair. On my
> pair, there were 6 of them on the rack at any one time and 1 of the
> girls I bowled with had another one in her bag.
>
> The Cell was Rotos best selling ball within 6 weeks of release. Guys
> bowling on tour love it cause you can drill it so many different ways
> and changing the cover really alters the movement. Scroggins had 12
> of them and Danny Wiseman had 9 in his bag last season.- Hide quoted
> text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I was asking the pro shop guy about trading in my old ball's for a
cell and both he and pro bowler dave husted who ownes the alley I was
at, both told me that it was the same as the storm "special agent"
that I already had. they advised me to stick with my current lineup,as
did this group. (special agent, black widdow, morich"seek&destroy" and
my t-zone spare ball). so I just blew some coin on a four ball roller
bag for $150. I could have got it cheaper on the internet, but if
anything goes wrong with it ( like my last bag ), you have to pay
shipping both way's about $50.




 
Date: 23 Nov 2008 17:20:56
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 23, 1:12=A0pm, 01dyna <01d...@noplace.com > wrote:

> Think the Cell Pearl is a good ball for nationals? =A0I would think the
> Cell would be better.
>
> I'm been pretty stuck on 900 Globals recently.

I've always done best with solids at nationals. Don't really need the
extra length or backend of a pearl on that condition. The Cell pearl
will probably come with me but I'd expect to use my Horizon Solid or
Grand Illusion.

On house conditions a bunch of guys here are going Cell + Cell Pearl
as their league night balls. I'm throwing the Illusion and Grand
Illusion more but that's just my contrarian nature.





  
Date: 23 Nov 2008 22:14:18
From: 01dyna
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On Sun, 23 2008 17:20:56 -0800 (PST), 2bowlers@gmail.com you
wrote:

>On 23, 1:12 pm, 01dyna <01d...@noplace.com> wrote:
>
>> Think the Cell Pearl is a good ball for nationals?  I would think the
>> Cell would be better.
>>
>> I'm been pretty stuck on 900 Globals recently.
>
>I've always done best with solids at nationals. Don't really need the
>extra length or backend of a pearl on that condition. The Cell pearl
>will probably come with me but I'd expect to use my Horizon Solid or
>Grand Illusion.
>
>On house conditions a bunch of guys here are going Cell + Cell Pearl
>as their league night balls. I'm throwing the Illusion and Grand
>Illusion more but that's just my contrarian nature.
>
>
I've been using the Break Pearl and on really wet conditions, the
Break. I think the Break is burned out though. I need to look at
something for the Nat. shot. Nothing around here is similar so I need
to get something and punch it out just for there.




 
Date: 23 Nov 2008 08:19:22
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 22, 6:15=A0pm, 01dyna <01d...@noplace.com > wrote:

> yep...gonna be fun.

If you booked your hotel already send Rick or I a note to the real
email and let me know where. We have to finalize our accomodations.

I had a few Quantums back in that day - they weren't all bad.
Overpriced but not bad.

You should try the Cell Pearl. It's a darn good ball.



  
Date: 23 Nov 2008 13:12:10
From: 01dyna
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On Sun, 23 2008 08:19:22 -0800 (PST), 2bowlers@gmail.com you
wrote:

>On 22, 6:15 pm, 01dyna <01d...@noplace.com> wrote:
>
>> yep...gonna be fun.
>
>If you booked your hotel already send Rick or I a note to the real
>email and let me know where. We have to finalize our accomodations.
>
>I had a few Quantums back in that day - they weren't all bad.
>Overpriced but not bad.
>
>You should try the Cell Pearl. It's a darn good ball.


I haven't booked a room yet. I'm still trying to decide where. Flying
in Friday and leaving the following Tuesday.

I IM'd Rick last week so he knows I'm still undecided on the hotel.

Think the Cell Pearl is a good ball for nationals? I would think the
Cell would be better.

I'm been pretty stuck on 900 Globals recently.



 
Date: 22 Nov 2008 13:37:46
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 18, 10:04=A0pm, 01dyna <01d...@noplace.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 16 2008 21:10:47 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership>
>
> you wrote:
>
> >What ball would you suggest?
>
> Most definitely the XCalibur

You give up on the Hammer 4D already?

I can't tell you how many Cells they sold but it's a lot and the Cell
Pearl will outsell the original. Our ball returns are covered with
Cell solids and Pearls. For most guys it's thier first Roto ball.

C'ya in March.

Mark


  
Date: 22 Nov 2008 18:15:37
From: 01dyna
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On Sat, 22 2008 13:37:46 -0800 (PST), 2bowlers@gmail.com you
wrote:

>On 18, 10:04 pm, 01dyna <01d...@noplace.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 2008 21:10:47 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership>
>>
>> you wrote:
>>
>> >What ball would you suggest?
>>
>> Most definitely the XCalibur
>
>You give up on the Hammer 4D already?

..right after my last Quantum.

>
>I can't tell you how many Cells they sold but it's a lot and the Cell
>Pearl will outsell the original. Our ball returns are covered with
>Cell solids and Pearls. For most guys it's thier first Roto ball.
>
>C'ya in March.
>
>Mark

yep...gonna be fun.

-aki



 
Date: 22 Nov 2008 00:05:57
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 21, 2:39=A0pm, spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> On 21, 9:19=A0am, "Tom J" <bowlingfoolmysho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Chip, I think they're talking about this year. =A0:)
>
> > "01dyna" <01d...@noplace.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:eh07i4pabfdq682m63132tsk1tglo0gqrk@4ax.com...
>
> > > On Sun, 16 2008 21:10:47 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership=
>
> > > you wrote:
>
> > >>What ball would you suggest?
>
> > > Most definitely the XCalibur- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> my pro-shop guy said the x-caliber and the cell were the hottest
> selling ball's. so you guy's were right. I was tempted to buy a used
> cell for a $100 but as you all have mentioned, I don't need a new ball.- =
Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

My favorite ball ever was the Nuke!! I had every color hammer before
it (of which I like the red pearl and blue the best), and several
'reactive resins' after, but never felt as good as I did with the
Nuke! I like OILY lanes cause I can hook a ton, so when theyre dry I
struggle to contain it. But the Nuke friggen' seemed to find a line
no matter what the lanes were like...

T


 
Date: 21 Nov 2008 11:39:36
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 21, 9:19=A0am, "Tom J" <bowlingfoolmysho...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Chip, I think they're talking about this year. =A0:)
>
> "01dyna" <01d...@noplace.com> wrote in message
>
> news:eh07i4pabfdq682m63132tsk1tglo0gqrk@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 16 2008 21:10:47 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership>
> > you wrote:
>
> >>What ball would you suggest?
>
> > Most definitely the XCalibur- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

my pro-shop guy said the x-caliber and the cell were the hottest
selling ball's. so you guy's were right. I was tempted to buy a used
cell for a $100 but as you all have mentioned, I don't need a new ball.


 
Date: 20 Nov 2008 09:28:58
From:
Subject: Re: top selling ball
All of these Cell comments are making me feel mildly inadequate about
my recent ball choice. :)
(not really, but it makes for a good story)

When talking to my driller/pro, he suggested either the Cell or the
Dimension. Told me either would be good, gave his impressions of
both, and from his comments, I picked the latter.

I should point out I'm in no way unhappy with it. In fact, I'm quite
happy with it. But the geek in me wonders.... ;)


  
Date: 20 Nov 2008 14:56:24
From: litefrozen
Subject: Re: top selling ball
nrjyzr@gmail.com wrote:
> All of these Cell comments are making me feel mildly inadequate about
> my recent ball choice. :)
> (not really, but it makes for a good story)
>
> When talking to my driller/pro, he suggested either the Cell or the
> Dimension. Told me either would be good, gave his impressions of
> both, and from his comments, I picked the latter.
>
> I should point out I'm in no way unhappy with it. In fact, I'm quite
> happy with it. But the geek in me wonders.... ;)

The dimension is a great ball also nothing wrong there. It and the cell
have similar spec's. Plus storm owns rotogrip so it just down to what
you like.


 
Date: 17 Nov 2008 08:44:39
From: GenPounder
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On 16, 8:10=A0pm, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership > wrote:
> 01dyna wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 2008 11:20:33 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership>
> > you wrote:
>
> >> spr272...@netzero.net wrote:
> >>> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrmance
> >>> bowling ball is ? just curious.
> >> While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell would be =
a
> >> top contender for ball of the year.
>
> > why would you say that? =A0Because of how many people use it in your
> > area? =A0Nobody uses it around here..that's why I ask.
>
> And just because nobody uses it where your at, Would that mean that it
> couldn't be Contender?
>
> As for how many use it here. There's not that many at my main house (I
> have one in my arsenal). But they are selling well at the other houses
> around the area. And being used to great advantage.
>
> But I base my statement on the ball reviews and the discussions on the
> other bowling sites and forums that I visit ( Heres a good onehttp://www.=
ballreviews.com/).
>
> Plus from what I've seen in the bowling magazines (like Bowling This
> Month) and from talking with other bowlers who travel around to more
> houses than I do ( such as guys on the regional tour).
>
> So the statement that the Cell could be a contender for ball of the year
> is founded on good grounds.
>
> What ball would you suggest?

I second that the Cell would be the ball of the year. By me, it was
flying off of the shelves. The Cell Pearl was sold out before it even
hit the shelves.

This year at Nationals, I saw at least 2-3 cells on every pair. On my
pair, there were 6 of them on the rack at any one time and 1 of the
girls I bowled with had another one in her bag.

The Cell was Rotos best selling ball within 6 weeks of release. Guys
bowling on tour love it cause you can drill it so many different ways
and changing the cover really alters the movement. Scroggins had 12
of them and Danny Wiseman had 9 in his bag last season.


 
Date: 16 Nov 2008 11:20:33
From: litefrozen
Subject: Re: top selling ball
spr272000@netzero.net wrote:
> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrmance
> bowling ball is ? just curious.

While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell would be a
top contender for ball of the year.


  
Date: 16 Nov 2008 12:49:31
From: 01dyna
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On Sun, 16 2008 11:20:33 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership >
you wrote:

>spr272000@netzero.net wrote:
>> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrmance
>> bowling ball is ? just curious.
>
>While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell would be a
>top contender for ball of the year.


why would you say that? Because of how many people use it in your
area? Nobody uses it around here..that's why I ask.



   
Date: 16 Nov 2008 21:10:47
From: litefrozen
Subject: Re: top selling ball
01dyna wrote:
> On Sun, 16 2008 11:20:33 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership>
> you wrote:
>
>> spr272000@netzero.net wrote:
>>> does anyone know what the highest rated and top selling perfrmance
>>> bowling ball is ? just curious.
>> While not having seen any numbers. I'd say the Rotogrip Cell would be a
>> top contender for ball of the year.
>
>
> why would you say that? Because of how many people use it in your
> area? Nobody uses it around here..that's why I ask.
>

And just because nobody uses it where your at, Would that mean that it
couldn't be Contender?

As for how many use it here. There's not that many at my main house (I
have one in my arsenal). But they are selling well at the other houses
around the area. And being used to great advantage.

But I base my statement on the ball reviews and the discussions on the
other bowling sites and forums that I visit ( Heres a good one
http://www.ballreviews.com/).

Plus from what I've seen in the bowling magazines (like Bowling This
Month) and from talking with other bowlers who travel around to more
houses than I do ( such as guys on the regional tour).

So the statement that the Cell could be a contender for ball of the year
is founded on good grounds.

What ball would you suggest?




    
Date: 18 Nov 2008 22:04:35
From: 01dyna
Subject: Re: top selling ball
On Sun, 16 2008 21:10:47 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership >
you wrote:


>
>What ball would you suggest?
>


Most definitely the XCalibur



     
Date: 21 Nov 2008 12:19:39
From: Tom J
Subject: Re: top selling ball
Chip, I think they're talking about this year. :)




"01dyna" <01dyna@noplace.com > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 2008 21:10:47 -0500, litefrozen <litefrozen@mothership>
> you wrote:
>
>
>>
>>What ball would you suggest?
>>
>
>
> Most definitely the XCalibur
>