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Date: 24 Dec 2004 16:42:15
From: Bob D
Subject: "no slide" lanes!
I just tried my new pair of Etonic Stabilite Mens Action Black/Blue
Right Hand bowling shoes here in our only bowling center (small town).
The shoes advertise a "long, controlled slide," but on my first few
attempts I stopped so quickly I almost fell. I bought some Ebonite
UltraSlide powder and tried that on the left shoe, but it still
wouldn't slide. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the
sole on the left shoe slide better? Should I spray silicon on it? It
feels like it's made of felt or something. I suppose I could wear a
sock over it, but that's rather uncool looking.

Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.





 
Date: 26 Dec 2004 05:53:08
From: NimBill
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
>From: Bob D bobdnospam@cox.net

>I just tried my new pair of Etonic Stabilite Mens Action Black/Blue
>Right Hand bowling shoes here in our only bowling center (small town).
>The shoes advertise a "long, controlled slide," but on my first few
>attempts I stopped so quickly I almost fell. I bought some Ebonite
>UltraSlide powder and tried that on the left shoe, but it still
>wouldn't slide. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the
>sole on the left shoe slide better? Should I spray silicon on it? It
>feels like it's made of felt or something. I suppose I could wear a
>sock over it, but that's rather uncool looking.
>
>Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
>sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.

Linds bowling shoes. Otherwise Dexters bowling shoes. Otherwise Ebonites or
Wilsons. I own all and use all! Never tried discount store brands so will not
talk bad about them.










  
Date: 30 Dec 2004 11:04:31
From: Jack B
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
Hey Bill,

Last year at Nationals the lanes I bowled on were a little sticky. I tried
several of the my slide soles for my Dexters but it only marginly help. What
do you do in conditions like that?

Jack B

"NimBill" <nimbill@aol.comtisme > wrote in message
news:20041226005308.06270.00001475@mb-m23.aol.com...
> >From: Bob D bobdnospam@cox.net
>
>>I just tried my new pair of Etonic Stabilite Mens Action Black/Blue
>>Right Hand bowling shoes here in our only bowling center (small town).
>>The shoes advertise a "long, controlled slide," but on my first few
>>attempts I stopped so quickly I almost fell. I bought some Ebonite
>>UltraSlide powder and tried that on the left shoe, but it still
>>wouldn't slide. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the
>>sole on the left shoe slide better? Should I spray silicon on it? It
>>feels like it's made of felt or something. I suppose I could wear a
>>sock over it, but that's rather uncool looking.
>>
>>Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
>>sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.
>
> Linds bowling shoes. Otherwise Dexters bowling shoes. Otherwise Ebonites
> or
> Wilsons. I own all and use all! Never tried discount store brands so will
> not
> talk bad about them.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




   
Date: 11 Jan 2005 01:52:13
From: CPOWHR
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
>From: "Jack B" elbundo1@comcast.net

>Hey Bill,
>
>Last year at Nationals the lanes I bowled on were a little sticky. I tried
>several of the my slide soles for my Dexters but it only marginly help. What
>do you do in conditions like that?
>
>Jack B

I switch to better shoes like my Wilson's or Linds. I prefer not to use
inferior shoes like Dexters but do own some. My newest pair of Lind's is nearly
25 years old and in better shape than my newest pair of Dexter's about a year
old despite being used far more.

My Lind's Extras and Wilson shoes with adjustable soles are about 10 years old
and in far better shape than my nearly new Dexter's.

My Ebonite shoes are still in great shape but over 10 years old.

I want a pair of shoes I wear only a few hours a week to last a long time and
since bowling is not a fashion contast I do not care what they look like.


   
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Date: 30 Dec 2004 21:23:43
From: Smokey
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
> Last year at Nationals the lanes I bowled on were a little sticky. I tried
> several of the my slide soles for my Dexters but it only marginly help.
What
> do you do in conditions like that?

Do you have a #10 slide sole (gray felt) AND a #7 heel (red "felt")? Unless
the approach is "covered" in syrup or lane stripping material, you should
slide well with, at least, the #10 sole.

You can always take the #2(?) "Super Plant" sole and apply a Master "Slide
Glide" (self-adhesive, woven nylon) pad to it. When you need "max slide",
just pull your normal sole and apply the "hybrid".

Couldn't hurt.... :)




    
Date: 31 Dec 2004 13:52:47
From: D K
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
This sounds like it would work. They also sell what amounts to a sock nose
with a strap that slides over your bowling shoe. I do not remember the fee, but
all the guys in a group from here that went to Cincinnati bought 'em because the
approaches at the Hoinke can be "tricky" <wink >. It isn't the prettiest thing,
but it is very effective.

Smokey wrote:

> > Last year at Nationals the lanes I bowled on were a little sticky. I tried
> > several of the my slide soles for my Dexters but it only marginly help.
> What
> > do you do in conditions like that?
>
> Do you have a #10 slide sole (gray felt) AND a #7 heel (red "felt")? Unless
> the approach is "covered" in syrup or lane stripping material, you should
> slide well with, at least, the #10 sole.
>
> You can always take the #2(?) "Super Plant" sole and apply a Master "Slide
> Glide" (self-adhesive, woven nylon) pad to it. When you need "max slide",
> just pull your normal sole and apply the "hybrid".
>
> Couldn't hurt.... :)

--
dk - nationally ranked "rock, paper, scissors" player




     
Date: 08 Jan 2005 05:52:37
From:
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:52:47 GMT, D K <david.kent@rochester.rr.com >
wrote:

>This sounds like it would work. They also sell what amounts to a sock nose
>with a strap that slides over your bowling shoe. I do not remember the fee, but
>all the guys in a group from here that went to Cincinnati bought 'em because the
>approaches at the Hoinke can be "tricky" <wink>. It isn't the prettiest thing,
>but it is very effective.

I applied the Slide Right device to my new Etonic shoes, and FINALLY
was able to slide a little better on our lanes. Thanks, Smokey. The
week before I used the Slide Right sole while throwing practice balls
on the first ball I stuck so badly I pulled a muscle on the top left
of my leg, around 8 inches above the knee. Now, with the Slide Right
sole attached I can at least slide a few inches.... Excellent
product!


      
Date: 08 Jan 2005 22:08:45
From: Smokey
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
> >This sounds like it would work. They also sell what amounts to a sock
nose
> >with a strap that slides over your bowling shoe. I do not remember the
fee, but
> >all the guys in a group from here that went to Cincinnati bought 'em
because the
> >approaches at the Hoinke can be "tricky" <wink>. It isn't the prettiest
thing,
> >but it is very effective.
>
> I applied the Slide Right device to my new Etonic shoes, and FINALLY
> was able to slide a little better on our lanes. Thanks, Smokey. The
> week before I used the Slide Right sole while throwing practice balls
> on the first ball I stuck so badly I pulled a muscle on the top left
> of my leg, around 8 inches above the knee. Now, with the Slide Right
> sole attached I can at least slide a few inches.... Excellent
> product!

Glad it works for you and hope that pulled Quad heals all the way.....




       
Date: 09 Jan 2005 09:56:18
From: Bob and Scarlett
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:08:45 -0800, "Smokey"
<102151.3223@compuserve.com > wrote:

>> >This sounds like it would work. They also sell what amounts to a sock
>nose
>> >with a strap that slides over your bowling shoe. I do not remember the
>fee, but
>> >all the guys in a group from here that went to Cincinnati bought 'em
>because the
>> >approaches at the Hoinke can be "tricky" <wink>. It isn't the prettiest
>thing,
>> >but it is very effective.
>>
>> I applied the Slide Right device to my new Etonic shoes, and FINALLY
>> was able to slide a little better on our lanes. Thanks, Smokey. The
>> week before I used the Slide Right sole while throwing practice balls
>> on the first ball I stuck so badly I pulled a muscle on the top left
>> of my leg, around 8 inches above the knee. Now, with the Slide Right
>> sole attached I can at least slide a few inches.... Excellent
>> product!
>
>Glad it works for you and hope that pulled Quad heals all the way.....
>
Thanks, Smokey. It feels pretty good now, and the Slide Right device
really helped.

On another subject, I'm throwing around 15 mph or so and the ball
isn't breaking much. I begin with my palm pretty much under the ball,
then release it by removing my thumb first (fingertip holes), then
lift with my two fingers, etc. It breaks a little... maybe a couple
of pins or so... but not as much as I'd expected. Any advice? Should
I try throwing slower? Thanks.


        
Date: 09 Jan 2005 12:34:28
From: Smokey
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
> On another subject, I'm throwing around 15 mph or so and the ball
> isn't breaking much. I begin with my palm pretty much under the ball,
> then release it by removing my thumb first (fingertip holes), then
> lift with my two fingers, etc. It breaks a little... maybe a couple
> of pins or so... but not as much as I'd expected. Any advice? Should
> I try throwing slower? Thanks.

15 is a great speed for delivery. My only suggestion is "un-flattening" the
ball Just A Little. IOW, while maintaining the MAJORITY of the palm under
the ball, start with your hand "tilted" 30-45 degrees upward with respect to
the floor. What this will do is transfer a little of the ball's weight to
the FINGERS, rather than having the palm hold everything.

As long as you maintain this position from start to finish, you should
deliver the ball with a little more "side spin", which should translate into
increased hook. DO NOT increase the speed!

Finally, are you "breaking" the wrist at delivery? IOW, does you hand bend
backwards when you release the ball? if it does, this DEFINITELY kills any
hook that you otherwise might get out of the ball. If this is happening,
strive to keep the wrist as STRAIGHT as possible, or even cup it Just A
Little. If it's difficult to hold the position, get a suitable wrist brace
(i.e. "Robby's" or similar) until you can do exercises to strengthen your
wrist AND foreaerm muscles.

That's all I cna initially think of. I look forward to what The Others
might have to offer. :)




         
Date: 10 Jan 2005 07:39:18
From: Bob and Scarlett
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:34:28 -0800, "Smokey"
<102151.3223@compuserve.com > wrote:

>> On another subject, I'm throwing around 15 mph or so and the ball
>> isn't breaking much. I begin with my palm pretty much under the ball,
>> then release it by removing my thumb first (fingertip holes), then
>> lift with my two fingers, etc. It breaks a little... maybe a couple
>> of pins or so... but not as much as I'd expected. Any advice? Should
>> I try throwing slower? Thanks.
>
>15 is a great speed for delivery. My only suggestion is "un-flattening" the
>ball Just A Little. IOW, while maintaining the MAJORITY of the palm under
>the ball, start with your hand "tilted" 30-45 degrees upward with respect to
>the floor. What this will do is transfer a little of the ball's weight to
>the FINGERS, rather than having the palm hold everything.

I think this is pretty much how I hold it now, but I'll check it.
>
>As long as you maintain this position from start to finish, you should
>deliver the ball with a little more "side spin", which should translate into
>increased hook. DO NOT increase the speed!
>
>Finally, are you "breaking" the wrist at delivery?

I suspect I am. I know I do that on my golf backswing, and then snap
my wrists at impact which gives me more distance. I suspect I'm
subconsciously doing the same thing with the bowling ball. I'll try
to work on keeping the wrist straight. Thanks, Smokey....

IOW, does you hand bend
>backwards when you release the ball? if it does, this DEFINITELY kills any
>hook that you otherwise might get out of the ball. If this is happening,
>strive to keep the wrist as STRAIGHT as possible, or even cup it Just A
>Little. If it's difficult to hold the position, get a suitable wrist brace
>(i.e. "Robby's" or similar) until you can do exercises to strengthen your
>wrist AND foreaerm muscles.
>
>That's all I cna initially think of. I look forward to what The Others
>might have to offer. :)
>



         
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Date: 25 Dec 2004 00:26:13
From: C D
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!

Bob D wrote:
> I just tried my new pair of Etonic Stabilite Mens Action Black/Blue
> Right Hand bowling shoes here in our only bowling center (small
town).
> The shoes advertise a "long, controlled slide," but on my first few
> attempts I stopped so quickly I almost fell. I bought some Ebonite
> UltraSlide powder and tried that on the left shoe, but it still
> wouldn't slide. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the
> sole on the left shoe slide better? Should I spray silicon on it?
It
> feels like it's made of felt or something. I suppose I could wear a
> sock over it, but that's rather uncool looking.
>
> Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
> sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.


Etonic is new to the bowling shoe market. From reports from others,
they make nice golf shoes (I've never golfed, so I wouldn't know.) I
have sold about 10 pair of the Etonic "Flame" shoes, which are in the
same product line as the pair you bought and have had similar responces
from my customers. The slide sole to me resembles that of some of the
lower-end dexter and brunswick shoes, which are notorious for not
sliding when brand new. Wear the shoes around @ home (on clean carpet)
and break them in before oyu decide th use the teflon sole... which is
a good fix, but irreversible.

C D



  
Date: 28 Dec 2004 19:46:53
From: The Moses Brown
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
C D wrote:
> Bob D wrote:
>
>>I just tried my new pair of Etonic Stabilite Mens Action Black/Blue
>>Right Hand bowling shoes here in our only bowling center (small
>
> town).
>
>>The shoes advertise a "long, controlled slide," but on my first few
>>attempts I stopped so quickly I almost fell. I bought some Ebonite
>>UltraSlide powder and tried that on the left shoe, but it still
>>wouldn't slide. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the
>>sole on the left shoe slide better? Should I spray silicon on it?
>
> It
>
>>feels like it's made of felt or something. I suppose I could wear a
>>sock over it, but that's rather uncool looking.
>>
>>Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
>>sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.
>
>
>
> Etonic is new to the bowling shoe market. From reports from others,
> they make nice golf shoes (I've never golfed, so I wouldn't know.) I
> have sold about 10 pair of the Etonic "Flame" shoes, which are in the
> same product line as the pair you bought and have had similar responces
> from my customers. The slide sole to me resembles that of some of the
> lower-end dexter and brunswick shoes, which are notorious for not
> sliding when brand new. Wear the shoes around @ home (on clean carpet)
> and break them in before oyu decide th use the teflon sole... which is
> a good fix, but irreversible.
>
> C D
>

As I said, I have those shoes and it took me 4 frames to break them in.
Tell people to stop sliding with their heels touching the approach and
they will be fine...because once that heel touches the approach, you are
not moving another inch...unless it is to fall down.

--
np:


"Hey, everybody knows...I got no clothes on, underneath of my clothes!"
-The All Mighty Senators


   
Date: 28 Dec 2004 20:13:32
From:
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:46:53 -0500, The Moses Brown
<soulphishjenkins@hiya-who.com > wrote:

>C D wrote:
>> Bob D wrote:
>>
>>>I just tried my new pair of Etonic Stabilite Mens Action Black/Blue
>>>Right Hand bowling shoes here in our only bowling center (small
>>
>> town).
>>
>>>The shoes advertise a "long, controlled slide," but on my first few
>>>attempts I stopped so quickly I almost fell. I bought some Ebonite
>>>UltraSlide powder and tried that on the left shoe, but it still
>>>wouldn't slide. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the
>>>sole on the left shoe slide better? Should I spray silicon on it?
>>
>> It
>>
>>>feels like it's made of felt or something. I suppose I could wear a
>>>sock over it, but that's rather uncool looking.
>>>
>>>Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
>>>sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Etonic is new to the bowling shoe market. From reports from others,
>> they make nice golf shoes (I've never golfed, so I wouldn't know.) I
>> have sold about 10 pair of the Etonic "Flame" shoes, which are in the
>> same product line as the pair you bought and have had similar responces
>> from my customers. The slide sole to me resembles that of some of the
>> lower-end dexter and brunswick shoes, which are notorious for not
>> sliding when brand new. Wear the shoes around @ home (on clean carpet)
>> and break them in before oyu decide th use the teflon sole... which is
>> a good fix, but irreversible.
>>
>> C D
>>
>
>As I said, I have those shoes and it took me 4 frames to break them in.
>Tell people to stop sliding with their heels touching the approach and
>they will be fine...because once that heel touches the approach, you are
>not moving another inch...unless it is to fall down.

Our local lanes are really sticky! REALLY sticky! I know I have been
"sliding" on the balls of my foot only, but I'm not moving more than a
couple of inches. I've been wearing the shoes around the house to try
to break them in, but today in PRACTICE I pulled a muscle on the top
of my left leg around five inches above the knee because I stopped so
quickly. I started bowling anyway, with no slide possible, and had 52
in the fifth frame. Then I quit trying to slide completely, since I
couldn't. I moved up several steps closer to the line, and took a
short backswing, finishing with no slide and 7 strikes in a row.
Tough way to get a 172! Now I'm shopping for a new ball. I'm going
to move down from my 16 lb. Brunswick Rhino to a 15 pound ball. Any
"favorites" out there, for medium oily lanes and approaches to the
foud line that can kill you, literally!


    
Date: 30 Dec 2004 11:41:26
From: Richard Schwager
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
I was wondering how you went from 52 in the 5th frame to a 172 game with
7 in a row? Shouldn't it be a 202? 52, 82, 112, 142, 172, 202.

bobdumon3@cox.net wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:46:53 -0500, The Moses Brown
> <soulphishjenkins@hiya-who.com> wrote:
>
>
>>C D wrote:
>>
>>>Bob D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just tried my new pair of Etonic Stabilite Mens Action Black/Blue
>>>>Right Hand bowling shoes here in our only bowling center (small
>>>
>>>town).
>>>
>>>
>>>>The shoes advertise a "long, controlled slide," but on my first few
>>>>attempts I stopped so quickly I almost fell. I bought some Ebonite
>>>>UltraSlide powder and tried that on the left shoe, but it still
>>>>wouldn't slide. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the
>>>>sole on the left shoe slide better? Should I spray silicon on it?
>>>
>>>It
>>>
>>>
>>>>feels like it's made of felt or something. I suppose I could wear a
>>>>sock over it, but that's rather uncool looking.
>>>>
>>>>Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
>>>>sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Etonic is new to the bowling shoe market. From reports from others,
>>>they make nice golf shoes (I've never golfed, so I wouldn't know.) I
>>>have sold about 10 pair of the Etonic "Flame" shoes, which are in the
>>>same product line as the pair you bought and have had similar responces
>>>from my customers. The slide sole to me resembles that of some of the
>>>lower-end dexter and brunswick shoes, which are notorious for not
>>>sliding when brand new. Wear the shoes around @ home (on clean carpet)
>>>and break them in before oyu decide th use the teflon sole... which is
>>>a good fix, but irreversible.
>>>
>>>C D
>>>
>>
>>As I said, I have those shoes and it took me 4 frames to break them in.
>>Tell people to stop sliding with their heels touching the approach and
>>they will be fine...because once that heel touches the approach, you are
>>not moving another inch...unless it is to fall down.
>
>
> Our local lanes are really sticky! REALLY sticky! I know I have been
> "sliding" on the balls of my foot only, but I'm not moving more than a
> couple of inches. I've been wearing the shoes around the house to try
> to break them in, but today in PRACTICE I pulled a muscle on the top
> of my left leg around five inches above the knee because I stopped so
> quickly. I started bowling anyway, with no slide possible, and had 52
> in the fifth frame. Then I quit trying to slide completely, since I
> couldn't. I moved up several steps closer to the line, and took a
> short backswing, finishing with no slide and 7 strikes in a row.
> Tough way to get a 172! Now I'm shopping for a new ball. I'm going
> to move down from my 16 lb. Brunswick Rhino to a 15 pound ball. Any
> "favorites" out there, for medium oily lanes and approaches to the
> foud line that can kill you, literally!

--
Have a good day R Schwager


     
Date: 08 Jan 2005 05:48:22
From:
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:41:26 -0500, Richard Schwager
<abcrich@optonline.net > wrote:

>I was wondering how you went from 52 in the 5th frame to a 172 game with
>7 in a row? Shouldn't it be a 202? 52, 82, 112, 142, 172, 202.

You're right! I don't know how it ended at 172. I thought I struck
out from the 6th frame on, but the machine scoring computer showed the
total as 172. Based on your note, I therefore must have had 52 in the
SIXTH frame and struck out from there... only six in a row. Thanks!


     
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Date: 28 Dec 2004 21:45:03
From:
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 20:13:32 -0500, bobdumon3@cox.net wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:46:53 -0500, The Moses Brown
><soulphishjenkins@hiya-who.com> wrote:
>
>>C D wrote:
>>> Bob D wrote:
>>>
>>>>I just tried my new pair of Etonic Stabilite Mens Action Black/Blue
>>>>Right Hand bowling shoes here in our only bowling center (small
>>>
>>> town).
>>>
>>>>The shoes advertise a "long, controlled slide," but on my first few
>>>>attempts I stopped so quickly I almost fell. I bought some Ebonite
>>>>UltraSlide powder and tried that on the left shoe, but it still
>>>>wouldn't slide. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the
>>>>sole on the left shoe slide better? Should I spray silicon on it?
>>>
>>> It
>>>
>>>>feels like it's made of felt or something. I suppose I could wear a
>>>>sock over it, but that's rather uncool looking.
>>>>
>>>>Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
>>>>sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Etonic is new to the bowling shoe market. From reports from others,
>>> they make nice golf shoes (I've never golfed, so I wouldn't know.) I
>>> have sold about 10 pair of the Etonic "Flame" shoes, which are in the
>>> same product line as the pair you bought and have had similar responces
>>> from my customers. The slide sole to me resembles that of some of the
>>> lower-end dexter and brunswick shoes, which are notorious for not
>>> sliding when brand new. Wear the shoes around @ home (on clean carpet)
>>> and break them in before oyu decide th use the teflon sole... which is
>>> a good fix, but irreversible.
>>>
>>> C D
>>>
>>
>>As I said, I have those shoes and it took me 4 frames to break them in.
>>Tell people to stop sliding with their heels touching the approach and
>>they will be fine...because once that heel touches the approach, you are
>>not moving another inch...unless it is to fall down.
>
>Our local lanes are really sticky! REALLY sticky! I know I have been
>"sliding" on the balls of my foot only, but I'm not moving more than a
>couple of inches. I've been wearing the shoes around the house to try
>to break them in, but today in PRACTICE I pulled a muscle on the top
>of my left leg around five inches above the knee because I stopped so
>quickly. I started bowling anyway, with no slide possible, and had 52
>in the fifth frame. Then I quit trying to slide completely, since I
>couldn't. I moved up several steps closer to the line, and took a
>short backswing, finishing with no slide and 7 strikes in a row.
>Tough way to get a 172! Now I'm shopping for a new ball. I'm going
>to move down from my 16 lb. Brunswick Rhino to a 15 pound ball. Any
>"favorites" out there, for medium oily lanes and approaches to the
>foud line that can kill you, literally!

I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
$80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob


     
Date: 29 Dec 2004 11:11:51
From: The Moses Brown
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
bobdumon3nospam@cox.net wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 20:13:32 -0500, bobdumon3@cox.net wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:46:53 -0500, The Moses Brown
>><soulphishjenkins@hiya-who.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>C D wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bob D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just tried my new pair of Etonic Stabilite Mens Action Black/Blue
>>>>>Right Hand bowling shoes here in our only bowling center (small
>>>>
>>>>town).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The shoes advertise a "long, controlled slide," but on my first few
>>>>>attempts I stopped so quickly I almost fell. I bought some Ebonite
>>>>>UltraSlide powder and tried that on the left shoe, but it still
>>>>>wouldn't slide. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the
>>>>>sole on the left shoe slide better? Should I spray silicon on it?
>>>>
>>>>It
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>feels like it's made of felt or something. I suppose I could wear a
>>>>>sock over it, but that's rather uncool looking.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
>>>>>sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Etonic is new to the bowling shoe market. From reports from others,
>>>>they make nice golf shoes (I've never golfed, so I wouldn't know.) I
>>>>have sold about 10 pair of the Etonic "Flame" shoes, which are in the
>>>>same product line as the pair you bought and have had similar responces
>>>>from my customers. The slide sole to me resembles that of some of the
>>>>lower-end dexter and brunswick shoes, which are notorious for not
>>>>sliding when brand new. Wear the shoes around @ home (on clean carpet)
>>>>and break them in before oyu decide th use the teflon sole... which is
>>>>a good fix, but irreversible.
>>>>
>>>>C D
>>>>
>>>
>>>As I said, I have those shoes and it took me 4 frames to break them in.
>>>Tell people to stop sliding with their heels touching the approach and
>>>they will be fine...because once that heel touches the approach, you are
>>>not moving another inch...unless it is to fall down.
>>
>>Our local lanes are really sticky! REALLY sticky! I know I have been
>>"sliding" on the balls of my foot only, but I'm not moving more than a
>>couple of inches. I've been wearing the shoes around the house to try
>>to break them in, but today in PRACTICE I pulled a muscle on the top
>>of my left leg around five inches above the knee because I stopped so
>>quickly. I started bowling anyway, with no slide possible, and had 52
>>in the fifth frame. Then I quit trying to slide completely, since I
>>couldn't. I moved up several steps closer to the line, and took a
>>short backswing, finishing with no slide and 7 strikes in a row.
>>Tough way to get a 172! Now I'm shopping for a new ball. I'm going
>>to move down from my 16 lb. Brunswick Rhino to a 15 pound ball. Any
>>"favorites" out there, for medium oily lanes and approaches to the
>>foud line that can kill you, literally!
>
>
> I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
> $80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
> me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob


Good luck and let me know how you like it. I have thought of getting
that same ball for when my Blade Pearl is too strong.

--
np:


"Hey, everybody knows...I got no clothes on, underneath of my clothes!"
-The All Mighty Senators


      
Date: 13 Jan 2005 21:38:38
From:
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!

>>
>> I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
>> $80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
>> me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob
>
>
>Good luck and let me know how you like it. I have thought of getting
>that same ball for when my Blade Pearl is too strong.


Okay, I've used this ball three times now (9 games), and I'm VERY
disappointed in it. Not sure whether it's the ball or me, but it is
barely breaking! My old Rhino broke more than this thing on these
same lanes! I'm going to test it using both balls in a practice
session next week to see if it's the ball or me, but so far I'm very
upset and disappointed in it.... If you want a straight ball that
moves maybe a few inches, fine, but I was expecting it to break more
than my old Rhino and it isn't....


       
Date: 05 Feb 2005 16:22:02
From: ALSPROSHOP
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
>From: bobdumon3nospam

>>> I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
>>> $80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
>>> me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob
>>

>Okay, I've used this ball three times now (9 games), and I'm VERY
>disappointed in it. Not sure whether it's the ball or me, but it is
>barely breaking! My old Rhino broke more than this thing on these
>same lanes! I'm going to test it using both balls in a practice
>session next week to see if it's the ball or me, but so far I'm very
>upset and disappointed in it.... If you want a straight ball that
>moves maybe a few inches, fine, but I was expecting it to break more
>than my old Rhino and it isn't....
>
>
Lesson learned here "buy from your local proshop" They would have told you the
Ice is a similar ball as the V2-Dry, which is for lanes with little to no
conditioner.






        
Date: 08 Feb 2005 18:03:39
From: Swabbie
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
you're not overworking the ball are you? as in ..overthrowing it so that the
ball just skids and never gets a chance to drive.

--

"ALSPROSHOP" <alsproshop@aol.com > wrote in message
news:20050205112202.08521.00000498@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >From: bobdumon3nospam
>
>>>> I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
>>>> $80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
>>>> me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob
>>>
>
>>Okay, I've used this ball three times now (9 games), and I'm VERY
>>disappointed in it. Not sure whether it's the ball or me, but it is
>>barely breaking! My old Rhino broke more than this thing on these
>>same lanes! I'm going to test it using both balls in a practice
>>session next week to see if it's the ball or me, but so far I'm very
>>upset and disappointed in it.... If you want a straight ball that
>>moves maybe a few inches, fine, but I was expecting it to break more
>>than my old Rhino and it isn't....
>>
>>
> Lesson learned here "buy from your local proshop" They would have told
> you the
> Ice is a similar ball as the V2-Dry, which is for lanes with little to no
> conditioner.
>
>
>
>



         
Date: 06 Mar 2005 22:27:07
From:
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:03:39 GMT, "Swabbie" <swab@yahoo.com > wrote:

>you're not overworking the ball are you? as in ..overthrowing it so that the
>ball just skids and never gets a chance to drive.

Thanks to all who answered. As in golf, I suspect it isn't the clubs
and ball as much as the guy hitting it, or in this case rolling it. I
did read as much as I could about the Ice before buying it, and
reviewed my decision with the owner of our only lanes here in our
town. He said he couldn't come close to the price I got, and was happy
to get the drilling work when the ball arrived. The Ice data I
reviewed said it would roll long, then hook into the pocket. Well it
rolls long... and rolls... and rolls... and then does hook a little,
but not as much as I'd expected it would. Doesn't move any more than
my old Brunswick Rhino does. I'm told our lanes are pretty heavily
oiled, so... if/when I replace the ball with something better suited
to our lanes I may buy it from the local shop, or may still get it
from the Net and have the local guy drill it again if it can save me
money. On a retiree's income every little bit of savings helps.

Any suggestions for a ball in the under-$100 range that will break
better on heavily oiled lanes? "Retired" or last year's models would
be fine with me if they're cheaper.... Thanks to all....


          
Date: 06 Mar 2005 22:22:42
From:
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
<bobdumon3nospam@cox.net >> wrote in message
news:00in21hfm14la715m05nvh29lilihfvbnl@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 18:03:39 GMT, "Swabbie" <swab@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Any suggestions for a ball in the under-$100 range that will break
> better on heavily oiled lanes? "Retired" or last year's models would
> be fine with me if they're cheaper.... Thanks to all....

I'm mainly a Brunswick guy....for slick lanes, you should be able to find a
Raging Inferno, Swamp Monster or BVP Goliath for around $100. Check with
your local pro shop for new balls, or even buy a used ball and get it
resurfaced.




          
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Date: 07 Feb 2005 16:24:19
From: clark
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
break out the sandpaper try some 220!!!!!
p.s. not to many $80 balls are going to hook check the spec sheets before
your next purchase
"ALSPROSHOP" <alsproshop@aol.com > wrote in message
news:20050205112202.08521.00000498@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >From: bobdumon3nospam
>
> >>> I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
> >>> $80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
> >>> me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob
> >>
>
> >Okay, I've used this ball three times now (9 games), and I'm VERY
> >disappointed in it. Not sure whether it's the ball or me, but it is
> >barely breaking! My old Rhino broke more than this thing on these
> >same lanes! I'm going to test it using both balls in a practice
> >session next week to see if it's the ball or me, but so far I'm very
> >upset and disappointed in it.... If you want a straight ball that
> >moves maybe a few inches, fine, but I was expecting it to break more
> >than my old Rhino and it isn't....
> >
> >
> Lesson learned here "buy from your local proshop" They would have told
you the
> Ice is a similar ball as the V2-Dry, which is for lanes with little to no
> conditioner.
>
>
>
>




         
Date: 08 Feb 2005 18:08:25
From: Swabbie
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
not true..the price of a ball is a nonfactor.
particle is particle, reactive is reactive.
some balls are just marketed as being better than others of the same makeup,
simply based on them being priced higher...
(i.e.)the favorite of all of my balls...the 80 dollar columbia jekyll.
runs great on a slick lane, as well as on a dry one., hits hard, and drives
harder than any ball I have.
I would worry more about HOW you throw the ball, not the price of a good
ball.

an old guy once told me..your whole game is in that 15 ft approach...the
rest is just gravy


--
d
"clark" <ccorey@starnetdial.net > wrote in message
news:1107822265.08a4f5d5a98e7c475dfa1434b42e0ab3@teranews...
> break out the sandpaper try some 220!!!!!
> p.s. not to many $80 balls are going to hook check the spec sheets before
> your next purchase
> "ALSPROSHOP" <alsproshop@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20050205112202.08521.00000498@mb-m06.aol.com...
>> >From: bobdumon3nospam
>>
>> >>> I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
>> >>> $80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
>> >>> me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob
>> >>
>>
>> >Okay, I've used this ball three times now (9 games), and I'm VERY
>> >disappointed in it. Not sure whether it's the ball or me, but it is
>> >barely breaking! My old Rhino broke more than this thing on these
>> >same lanes! I'm going to test it using both balls in a practice
>> >session next week to see if it's the ball or me, but so far I'm very
>> >upset and disappointed in it.... If you want a straight ball that
>> >moves maybe a few inches, fine, but I was expecting it to break more
>> >than my old Rhino and it isn't....
>> >
>> >
>> Lesson learned here "buy from your local proshop" They would have told
> you the
>> Ice is a similar ball as the V2-Dry, which is for lanes with little to no
>> conditioner.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



         
Date: 08 Feb 2005 00:57:15
From: D K
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
Not necessarily true. My polyester Blue Dot will hook sufficiently to strike
(on it's condition). The price isn't the only determinant to hookability. The
condition and the bowler go into the formula as well. But you are right that
the specs should be checked before purchase.

ps...I have more problems with balls that hook too much than ones that do not
hook enough.
--
For you to be successful, sacrifices must be made.
It's better that they are made by others but failing
that, you'll have to make them yourself.
-Rita Mae Brown-



clark wrote:

> break out the sandpaper try some 220!!!!!
> p.s. not to many $80 balls are going to hook check the spec sheets before
> your next purchase
> "ALSPROSHOP" <alsproshop@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20050205112202.08521.00000498@mb-m06.aol.com...
> > >From: bobdumon3nospam
> >
> > >>> I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
> > >>> $80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
> > >>> me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob
> > >>
> >
> > >Okay, I've used this ball three times now (9 games), and I'm VERY
> > >disappointed in it. Not sure whether it's the ball or me, but it is
> > >barely breaking! My old Rhino broke more than this thing on these
> > >same lanes! I'm going to test it using both balls in a practice
> > >session next week to see if it's the ball or me, but so far I'm very
> > >upset and disappointed in it.... If you want a straight ball that
> > >moves maybe a few inches, fine, but I was expecting it to break more
> > >than my old Rhino and it isn't....
> > >
> > >
> > Lesson learned here "buy from your local proshop" They would have told
> you the
> > Ice is a similar ball as the V2-Dry, which is for lanes with little to n



       
Date: 14 Jan 2005 22:29:20
From: The Moses Brown
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
bobdumon3nospam@cox.net wrote:
>>>I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
>>>$80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
>>>me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob
>>
>>
>>Good luck and let me know how you like it. I have thought of getting
>>that same ball for when my Blade Pearl is too strong.
>
>
>
> Okay, I've used this ball three times now (9 games), and I'm VERY
> disappointed in it. Not sure whether it's the ball or me, but it is
> barely breaking! My old Rhino broke more than this thing on these
> same lanes! I'm going to test it using both balls in a practice
> session next week to see if it's the ball or me, but so far I'm very
> upset and disappointed in it.... If you want a straight ball that
> moves maybe a few inches, fine, but I was expecting it to break more
> than my old Rhino and it isn't....

It is a weak ball by today's standards. That is why I wanted it because
at the time, my weakest ball was my Blade Pearl (I now have a Switch
Blade for when they are too dry for the Pearl)

--
np:


"Hey, everybody knows...I got no clothes on, underneath of my clothes!"
-The All Mighty Senators


       
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Date: 08 Jan 2005 06:03:13
From:
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!

>> I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
>> $80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
>> me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob
>
>
>Good luck and let me know how you like it. I have thought of getting
>that same ball for when my Blade Pearl is too strong.

I used the "Ice" for the first time Thursday night. My previous ball
is a Brunswick Rhino 16 pound ball. Expecting the "Ice" to break more
than the Rhino I must say I was disappointed. Frankly, I didn't see
any difference other than the fact that the 15 pound ball was less
tiring to throw. I bowled like crap the first couple of games, but
started using a tighter line in the last game and it got a little
better. I haven't bowled in years, and never was very good, usually
averaging in the high-160's. Thursday I bowled 115, 148, 167, so
after the two rotten games things did begin to pick up a little. I'll
let you know what happens this week (I'm subbing again). If you're
right handed, and want a ball to use for picking off ten pin leaves,
then I'd say the Ice is a good choice.... Bob



      
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Date: 29 Dec 2004 11:41:19
From: Bob and Scarlett
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!

>>
>>
>> I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
>> $80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
>> me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob
>
>
>Good luck and let me know how you like it. I have thought of getting
>that same ball for when my Blade Pearl is too strong.

Will do....


       
Date: 29 Dec 2004 11:45:32
From:
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 11:41:19 -0500, Bob and Scarlett
<bobscarlett2nospam@cox.net > wrote:

>
>>>
>>>
>>> I ordered an Ebonite "Ice" ball tonight from buddiesproshop.com.
>>> $80.16 including shipping, etc. I'll have my local pro drill it for
>>> me. Wish me luck with it.... Bob
>>
>>
>>Good luck and let me know how you like it. I have thought of getting
>>that same ball for when my Blade Pearl is too strong.
>
>Will do....

Ignore the last email address I used. It's a bogus address I use to
avoid SPAM! Bob


  
Date: 25 Dec 2004 10:39:32
From:
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
On 25 Dec 2004 00:26:13 -0800, "C D" <texshark300@sbcglobal.net >
wrote:

>
>Bob D wrote:
>> I just tried my new pair of Etonic Stabilite Mens Action Black/Blue
>> Right Hand bowling shoes here in our only bowling center (small
>town).
>> The shoes advertise a "long, controlled slide," but on my first few
>> attempts I stopped so quickly I almost fell. I bought some Ebonite
>> UltraSlide powder and tried that on the left shoe, but it still
>> wouldn't slide. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the
>> sole on the left shoe slide better? Should I spray silicon on it?
>It
>> feels like it's made of felt or something. I suppose I could wear a
>> sock over it, but that's rather uncool looking.
>>
>> Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
>> sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.
>
>
>Etonic is new to the bowling shoe market. From reports from others,
>they make nice golf shoes (I've never golfed, so I wouldn't know.) I
>have sold about 10 pair of the Etonic "Flame" shoes, which are in the
>same product line as the pair you bought and have had similar responces
>from my customers. The slide sole to me resembles that of some of the
>lower-end dexter and brunswick shoes, which are notorious for not
>sliding when brand new. Wear the shoes around @ home (on clean carpet)
>and break them in before oyu decide th use the teflon sole... which is
>a good fix, but irreversible.
>
>C D

Hey, thanks. I play a LOT of golf and have a few pair of Etonic golf
shoes, which are fine, so I went with their shoe. Also because I
liked the "sneaker" shoe look of the right shoe with a slide sole on
the left. Nice concept IF I can get the thing to slide. Thanks for
the feedback... I'll try what you recommend.... Bob


 
Date: 24 Dec 2004 17:15:52
From: Smokey
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
> Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
> sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.

Apply a Master "Slide Glide" self-adhesive, woven nylon pad to your slide
sole and trim off any "hanging" excess. YOU WILL slide, even on the
"stickiest" approaches! I firmly believe this product was EXPLICITLY
DESIGNED for synthetic approaches.

Cost of the pad is around $10 IF the pro shop carries it. BE WARNED:
because it's self-adhesive, it'll RUIN the "factory slide sole" of your
show. However, the benefits of Good Sliding outweigh any "warranty
voiding", in my book. :) NOTE: the pad DOES eventually wear out. When it
does (2 or 3 seasons, depending on how often you bowl), the remnant does
come off (leaving its' adhesive behind, unfortunately), leaving the sole
ready for another Slide Glide pad application, etc.

Finally, consider gluing a THIN (1/32" or thinner!) piece of CLOSE-WOVEN,
DENSE FELT to the slide sole (mak sure it TOTALLY COVERS the slide
material!). In essence, you'll emulate the Dexter #10 SST Slide Sole, which
is Just Below the Slide Glide pad in terms of "slidiness".

Hope this helps. :)




  
Date: 24 Dec 2004 20:48:22
From: Bob D
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:15:52 -0800, "Smokey"
<102151.3223@compuserve.com > wrote:

>> Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
>> sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.
>
>Apply a Master "Slide Glide" self-adhesive, woven nylon pad to your slide
>sole and trim off any "hanging" excess. YOU WILL slide, even on the
>"stickiest" approaches! I firmly believe this product was EXPLICITLY
>DESIGNED for synthetic approaches.
>
>Cost of the pad is around $10 IF the pro shop carries it. BE WARNED:
>because it's self-adhesive, it'll RUIN the "factory slide sole" of your
>show. However, the benefits of Good Sliding outweigh any "warranty
>voiding", in my book. :) NOTE: the pad DOES eventually wear out. When it
>does (2 or 3 seasons, depending on how often you bowl), the remnant does
>come off (leaving its' adhesive behind, unfortunately), leaving the sole
>ready for another Slide Glide pad application, etc.
>
>Finally, consider gluing a THIN (1/32" or thinner!) piece of CLOSE-WOVEN,
>DENSE FELT to the slide sole (mak sure it TOTALLY COVERS the slide
>material!). In essence, you'll emulate the Dexter #10 SST Slide Sole, which
>is Just Below the Slide Glide pad in terms of "slidiness".
>
>Hope this helps. :)
>

Thanks very much! The pad on the left shoe right now feels like some
kind of felt material, but it would only slide around 6 inches or so.
I take four steps, and normally like to slide a foot or two. Today
was the first time I've bowled in many years, and on the first few
balls I threw I almost fell on my butt when I didn't slide!
Naturally my scores sucked. Didn't seem to bother my buddy who was
bowling with me, however. He uses a short, three step approach, with
a small hop after the third step, and he rolled a 215 opening game
followed by a 300!!!!!!!!!! First one I've ever seen in person. Much
fun!!!!! Impressed the hell out of me!

I'll try the Slide Glide pad, thanks.



   
Date: 28 Dec 2004 19:44:57
From: The Moses Brown
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
Bob D wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:15:52 -0800, "Smokey"
> <102151.3223@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Any advice? Others have apparently complained about the lack of
>>>sliding ability on these lanes. What can/should I do? Thanks.
>>
>>Apply a Master "Slide Glide" self-adhesive, woven nylon pad to your slide
>>sole and trim off any "hanging" excess. YOU WILL slide, even on the
>>"stickiest" approaches! I firmly believe this product was EXPLICITLY
>>DESIGNED for synthetic approaches.
>>
>>Cost of the pad is around $10 IF the pro shop carries it. BE WARNED:
>>because it's self-adhesive, it'll RUIN the "factory slide sole" of your
>>show. However, the benefits of Good Sliding outweigh any "warranty
>>voiding", in my book. :) NOTE: the pad DOES eventually wear out. When it
>>does (2 or 3 seasons, depending on how often you bowl), the remnant does
>>come off (leaving its' adhesive behind, unfortunately), leaving the sole
>>ready for another Slide Glide pad application, etc.
>>
>>Finally, consider gluing a THIN (1/32" or thinner!) piece of CLOSE-WOVEN,
>>DENSE FELT to the slide sole (mak sure it TOTALLY COVERS the slide
>>material!). In essence, you'll emulate the Dexter #10 SST Slide Sole, which
>>is Just Below the Slide Glide pad in terms of "slidiness".
>>
>>Hope this helps. :)
>>
>
>
> Thanks very much! The pad on the left shoe right now feels like some
> kind of felt material, but it would only slide around 6 inches or so.
> I take four steps, and normally like to slide a foot or two. Today
> was the first time I've bowled in many years, and on the first few
> balls I threw I almost fell on my butt when I didn't slide!
> Naturally my scores sucked. Didn't seem to bother my buddy who was
> bowling with me, however. He uses a short, three step approach, with
> a small hop after the third step, and he rolled a 215 opening game
> followed by a 300!!!!!!!!!! First one I've ever seen in person. Much
> fun!!!!! Impressed the hell out of me!
>
> I'll try the Slide Glide pad, thanks.
>


I just tried my new Etonics (the black ones with the red flames) last
night and almost fell down for the first three or four shots, then I got
the hang of it. The slide sole is not the problem, it is the brake. You
have slide with the front of your foot, which I had to relearn how to do
because my old Linds just slid regardless of whether or not the "brake"
was in contact with the approach or not.

--
np:


"Hey, everybody knows...I got no clothes on, underneath of my clothes!"
-The All Mighty Senators


   
Date: 25 Dec 2004 22:51:01
From: Smokey
Subject: Re: "no slide" lanes!
> Thanks very much! The pad on the left shoe right now feels like some
> kind of felt material, but it would only slide around 6 inches or so.

Is the material ** WHITE ** in color? if it is, you're not alone because
that stuff is Standard Equipment on most all low-mid priced shoes. I'll bet
BOTH your shoes have this material!

For many people, this stuff is more than adequate. I've PERSONALLY found
that if you're of the "larger persuasion" in body weight, that material
provides minimal, if any, slide. That's why, IMHO, the "Slide Glide" pad
(and similar products) were made.

FWIW, I use Dexter SST6's with the #10 felt pad (previously described) and
the #7 "slick" red heel (both the sole and heel are interchangeable) as I
need all the slide I can get for my 320 lb "physique".

Anyhoo, I hope the Slide Glide helps you as I'm sure it will. :)