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Date: 14 Apr 2007 16:25:43
From: robert -wanda fox
Subject: comparison please??
i have been using an ebonite illusion with great success over the past few
years and average around 200+,problem is after several seasons the ball has
been resurfaced a few times,has quite a few chips and guages and lost quite
a bit of it's hitting power,there is a big chip forming across the finger
hole grips and the bridge will more then likely come out soon,so i want to
get something new,i don't know full specs on the ball(hardness,rg,pin
placement,core,etc..)but i love the way the ball hits and reacts,it's more
of a solid predictable arch with a smooth flip(not hard)within the last 10
or so feet on a med. oil cond.,i know without specific specs it's hard to
answer this but within opinions from whoi knows how certain brands will
perform,what its the best or more likely direction of brand ball would be
close or in the same direction that i would consider?? it's a light 15 pd.
and i am considering a 14 maybe?or just stay the same at 15 pd.,options that
have been suggested have been(total inferno,showtime,quantum fire,storm
triple threat) any ideas?? i have in my arsenal right now a storm triple
threat(giving to me)that goes long then extremely flips hard"too hard"the
last 10 or so feet,and a amf xs that is a pretty good ball,but a little too
tame when hitting the pins,light carries. thanks






 
Date: 14 Apr 2007 15:45:28
From: Mark
Subject: Re: comparison please??
On Apr 14, 12:25 pm, "robert -wanda fox" <res0t...@verizon.net > wrote:

> i have been using an ebonite illusion with great success (chop chop chop)

My advice - ask the company what the best replacement ball for the
Illusion would be. Go to the Ebonite tech section and under "ball
technical support" you will find an online form which you can fill
out.

You can also ask your pro shop to try and find one or you can email
the various web stores and ask them if they have one. You'd be amazed
at what some of these places have in inventory.

Good luck.

Mark



 
Date: 14 Apr 2007 19:34:28
From: litefrozen
Subject: Re: comparison please??
In article <bg7Uh.1429$uF1.297@trndny04 >, robert -wanda fox <res0ta8b@verizon.net> wrote:

> i have been using an ebonite illusion with great success over the past few
> years and average around 200+,problem is after several seasons the ball has
> been resurfaced a few times,has quite a few chips and guages and lost quite
> a bit of it's hitting power,there is a big chip forming across the finger
> hole grips and the bridge will more then likely come out soon,so i want to
> get something new,i don't know full specs on the ball(hardness,rg,pin
> placement,core,etc..)but i love the way the ball hits and reacts,it's more
> of a solid predictable arch with a smooth flip(not hard)within the last 10
> or so feet on a med. oil cond.,i know without specific specs it's hard to
> answer this but within opinions from whoi knows how certain brands will
> perform,what its the best or more likely direction of brand ball would be
> close or in the same direction that i would consider?? it's a light 15 pd.
> and i am considering a 14 maybe?or just stay the same at 15 pd.,options that
> have been suggested have been(total inferno,showtime,quantum fire,storm
> triple threat) any ideas?? i have in my arsenal right now a storm triple
> threat(giving to me)that goes long then extremely flips hard"too hard"the
> last 10 or so feet,and a amf xs that is a pretty good ball,but a little too
> tame when hitting the pins,light carries. thanks
>
>
Heres the info on the-
Ebonite - Illusion * discontinued
Specifications:
Line Optyx
Color Multi
Coverstock Reactive
Core 2-piece Asymmeterical
RG 2.530
Differential 0.047
Factory finish Polished
Weights 14 thru 16lbs
Lane Conditions Medium-Light Oil
Cleared PBA Mar 13, 2003
Cleared ABC Jan 2003


 
Date: 14 Apr 2007 10:21:44
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: comparison please??
I don't know who is making those ball suggestions for you, but I'd fire
them all if I were you! Problems with those suggestions:

1) Every single ball is out of production
2) Triple Threat is a medium heavy oil ball with a strong, almost
angular, backend
3) Total inferno same as above
4) Quantum? Quantum hasn't made balls in years! You would have better
luck finding a replacement Illusion! And even if you did find a Quantum
Fire it wouldn't give you the reaction you are looking for

There are plenty of "in production" candidates, but I typically suggest
ball by the same manufacture to someone who is in love with a specific
ball... From Ebonite, that ball would be the Smash Time Pearl.

http://www.ebonite.com/products/detail.php?PRKey=263



robert -wanda fox wrote:
> i have been using an ebonite illusion with great success over the past few
> years and average around 200+,problem is after several seasons the ball has
> been resurfaced a few times,has quite a few chips and guages and lost quite
> a bit of it's hitting power,there is a big chip forming across the finger
> hole grips and the bridge will more then likely come out soon,so i want to
> get something new,i don't know full specs on the ball(hardness,rg,pin
> placement,core,etc..)but i love the way the ball hits and reacts,it's more
> of a solid predictable arch with a smooth flip(not hard)within the last 10
> or so feet on a med. oil cond.,i know without specific specs it's hard to
> answer this but within opinions from whoi knows how certain brands will
> perform,what its the best or more likely direction of brand ball would be
> close or in the same direction that i would consider?? it's a light 15 pd.
> and i am considering a 14 maybe?or just stay the same at 15 pd.,options that
> have been suggested have been(total inferno,showtime,quantum fire,storm
> triple threat) any ideas?? i have in my arsenal right now a storm triple
> threat(giving to me)that goes long then extremely flips hard"too hard"the
> last 10 or so feet,and a amf xs that is a pretty good ball,but a little too
> tame when hitting the pins,light carries. thanks
>
>


  
Date: 16 Apr 2007 02:01:35
From: Kirwan Tenpin
Subject: Re: comparison please??
For those who are (like me, lol) Quantum fans, the Fire Quantum is still in
production, available through bowlingballs.com. They make a few of the
Quantum line. Got a Sage and a Fire off them a couple years ago, can
currently get at least the Fire and the Violet hook.
*Storm* Triple Threat???

Cheers, Robbie.

"Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com > wrote in message
news:46210db0$0$27019$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I don't know who is making those ball suggestions for you, but I'd fire
>them all if I were you! Problems with those suggestions:
>
> 1) Every single ball is out of production
> 2) Triple Threat is a medium heavy oil ball with a strong, almost angular,
> backend
> 3) Total inferno same as above
> 4) Quantum? Quantum hasn't made balls in years! You would have better luck
> finding a replacement Illusion! And even if you did find a Quantum Fire it
> wouldn't give you the reaction you are looking for
>
> There are plenty of "in production" candidates, but I typically suggest
> ball by the same manufacture to someone who is in love with a specific
> ball... From Ebonite, that ball would be the Smash Time Pearl.
>
> http://www.ebonite.com/products/detail.php?PRKey=263
>
>
>
> robert -wanda fox wrote:
>> i have been using an ebonite illusion with great success over the past
>> few
>> years and average around 200+,problem is after several seasons the ball
>> has
>> been resurfaced a few times,has quite a few chips and guages and lost
>> quite
>> a bit of it's hitting power,there is a big chip forming across the finger
>> hole grips and the bridge will more then likely come out soon,so i want
>> to
>> get something new,i don't know full specs on the ball(hardness,rg,pin
>> placement,core,etc..)but i love the way the ball hits and reacts,it's
>> more
>> of a solid predictable arch with a smooth flip(not hard)within the last
>> 10
>> or so feet on a med. oil cond.,i know without specific specs it's hard to
>> answer this but within opinions from whoi knows how certain brands will
>> perform,what its the best or more likely direction of brand ball would be
>> close or in the same direction that i would consider?? it's a light 15
>> pd.
>> and i am considering a 14 maybe?or just stay the same at 15 pd.,options
>> that
>> have been suggested have been(total inferno,showtime,quantum fire,storm
>> triple threat) any ideas?? i have in my arsenal right now a storm
>> triple
>> threat(giving to me)that goes long then extremely flips hard"too hard"the
>> last 10 or so feet,and a amf xs that is a pretty good ball,but a little
>> too
>> tame when hitting the pins,light carries. thanks
>>



   
Date: 16 Apr 2007 05:32:57
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: comparison please??
Actually, if you read their site (bowlingball.com) you will see that
they were "brought back into production exclusively for
bowlingball.com". As I stated before, Quantum, a division of Brunswick,
had quit making bowling balls years ago. Evidentially bowlingball.com
worked out a deal with Brunswick to resume production and have exclusive
right to their sales.

Kirwan Tenpin wrote:
> For those who are (like me, lol) Quantum fans, the Fire Quantum is still in
> production, available through bowlingballs.com. They make a few of the
> Quantum line. Got a Sage and a Fire off them a couple years ago, can
> currently get at least the Fire and the Violet hook.
> *Storm* Triple Threat???
>
> Cheers, Robbie.
>
> "Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:46210db0$0$27019$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> I don't know who is making those ball suggestions for you, but I'd fire
>> them all if I were you! Problems with those suggestions:
>>
>> 1) Every single ball is out of production
>> 2) Triple Threat is a medium heavy oil ball with a strong, almost angular,
>> backend
>> 3) Total inferno same as above
>> 4) Quantum? Quantum hasn't made balls in years! You would have better luck
>> finding a replacement Illusion! And even if you did find a Quantum Fire it
>> wouldn't give you the reaction you are looking for
>>
>> There are plenty of "in production" candidates, but I typically suggest
>> ball by the same manufacture to someone who is in love with a specific
>> ball... From Ebonite, that ball would be the Smash Time Pearl.
>>
>> http://www.ebonite.com/products/detail.php?PRKey=263
>>
>>
>>
>> robert -wanda fox wrote:
>>> i have been using an ebonite illusion with great success over the past
>>> few
>>> years and average around 200+,problem is after several seasons the ball
>>> has
>>> been resurfaced a few times,has quite a few chips and guages and lost
>>> quite
>>> a bit of it's hitting power,there is a big chip forming across the finger
>>> hole grips and the bridge will more then likely come out soon,so i want
>>> to
>>> get something new,i don't know full specs on the ball(hardness,rg,pin
>>> placement,core,etc..)but i love the way the ball hits and reacts,it's
>>> more
>>> of a solid predictable arch with a smooth flip(not hard)within the last
>>> 10
>>> or so feet on a med. oil cond.,i know without specific specs it's hard to
>>> answer this but within opinions from whoi knows how certain brands will
>>> perform,what its the best or more likely direction of brand ball would be
>>> close or in the same direction that i would consider?? it's a light 15
>>> pd.
>>> and i am considering a 14 maybe?or just stay the same at 15 pd.,options
>>> that
>>> have been suggested have been(total inferno,showtime,quantum fire,storm
>>> triple threat) any ideas?? i have in my arsenal right now a storm
>>> triple
>>> threat(giving to me)that goes long then extremely flips hard"too hard"the
>>> last 10 or so feet,and a amf xs that is a pretty good ball,but a little
>>> too
>>> tame when hitting the pins,light carries. thanks
>>>
>