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Date: 14 Jan 2007 10:10:49
From: Shawn Robertson
Subject: ball weight
I use a 15 lb reactive ball. I was thinking of changing to a 14 lb ball
for more control and less ware and tare on my bad shoulder (tendinitis)
what do you think?





 
Date: 16 Jan 2007 20:28:40
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: ball weight
> Ron Clifton's site....and he's good. One thing I've always gone by
> is use the heaviest weight you can AND STILL BE COMFORTABLE.

Agreed. In fact, I urge EVERYONE who wants to improve their bowing to
visit Ron's site, PRINT OUT EVERY TIP, and assemble them into a 3-ring
binder for reference!

Make sure you occasionally re-visit the site and check for new articles
as well as updates to existing ones...



 
Date: 16 Jan 2007 18:01:50
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: ball weight
> Found a good tip to discover what ball weight is good for you. I cannot
> remember the site but when I find it I will post it.

The "rule of thumb" (i.e. works for 90% of people) for determining your
ball's weight that is simply this: 10% of your body's weight, up to 16
lbs. IOW, if you weigh 125 lbs, use a 12 lb. ball; if you weigh 200
lbs., use a 16 lb. ball. IMHO, if the calculation results in a 16 lb.
ball, use a 15 instead for endurance.

Another observation: whatever weight of HOUSE BALL you're used to,
you'll find you can handle the NEXT WEIGHT UP when you get one that's
properly fitted to your hand. IOW, if you use a 13 lb. house ball, you
can probably upgrade to a 14 (or even 15?) lb. ball when it's properly
fitted to your hand.

Finally, those who have physical "complications" in their
arm/wrist/shoulder should DEFINITELY heed the "weight test" suggestion
to minimise joint damage (strains, sprains, etc.), whether it's a house
ball or personally fitted ball. As has been remarked - a personal
weight/strength training program for your legs and upper body will
definitely go a long way. :)



 
Date: 16 Jan 2007 14:42:00
From: moncho
Subject: Re: ball weight
Shawn Robertson wrote:
> I use a 15 lb reactive ball. I was thinking of changing to a 14 lb ball
> for more control and less ware and tare on my bad shoulder (tendinitis)
> what do you think?
>

Here is the link.

http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/tip14.htm

There are a ton more tips that will help.

moncho


  
Date: 16 Jan 2007 21:43:42
From: JimD
Subject: Re: ball weight
Ron Clifton's site....and he's good. One thing I've always gone by
is use the heaviest weight you can AND STILL BE COMFORTABLE.
Jim D.

"moncho" <moncho@NOspmanywhere.com > wrote in message
news:gU9rh.16230$Gw4.13328@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
> Shawn Robertson wrote:
> > I use a 15 lb reactive ball. I was thinking of changing to a 14 lb ball
> > for more control and less ware and tare on my bad shoulder (tendinitis)
> > what do you think?
> >
>
> Here is the link.
>
> http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/tip14.htm
>
> There are a ton more tips that will help.
>
> moncho




 
Date: 16 Jan 2007 08:21:25
From: Dan the Man
Subject: Re: ball weight

moncho wrote:
> An extra lb can make a big difference (good or bad). I was using a 14lb
> ball for about a year and then purchased a 15lb ball. I did notice a
> difference in the power of the added weight. The only thing is I am a
> weakling and am going back to a 14.
>
> Found a good tip to discover what ball weight is good for you. I cannot
> remember the site but when I find it I will post it.
>
> Grip your ball like you normally would. Stand straight up and let the
> ball hang down to your side. With your palm facing forward, just cup
> your wrist and hold the ball for 10 seconds, rest for 5 seconds and then
> cup your wrist again for another 10 seconds. Can you do this semi-easily?
>
> If not, going to a 14 lb might just help.
>
> I can do the above exercise 3 times in a row without any problem using
> my 14lb ball, but my 15lb, I conk out at around 8 seconds. This tells
> me that it would be to my benefit to use a 14lb ball to increase
> control. This really helps in the 3rd game also.
>
> moncho

That's a fair recommendation. I started the game with 14 and advanced
to 15 after about three years. I won't even think about going to 16
because I like to put a moderate hook on the ball. A heavier ball puts
a premium on good balance at the line, not to mention a precise
thumbhole fit.

Dan



  
Date: 16 Jan 2007 14:39:34
From: moncho
Subject: Re: ball weight
Dan the Man wrote:
> moncho wrote:
>> An extra lb can make a big difference (good or bad). I was using a 14lb
>> ball for about a year and then purchased a 15lb ball. I did notice a
>> difference in the power of the added weight. The only thing is I am a
>> weakling and am going back to a 14.
>>
>> Found a good tip to discover what ball weight is good for you. I cannot
>> remember the site but when I find it I will post it.
>>
>> Grip your ball like you normally would. Stand straight up and let the
>> ball hang down to your side. With your palm facing forward, just cup
>> your wrist and hold the ball for 10 seconds, rest for 5 seconds and then
>> cup your wrist again for another 10 seconds. Can you do this semi-easily?
>>
>> If not, going to a 14 lb might just help.
>>
>> I can do the above exercise 3 times in a row without any problem using
>> my 14lb ball, but my 15lb, I conk out at around 8 seconds. This tells
>> me that it would be to my benefit to use a 14lb ball to increase
>> control. This really helps in the 3rd game also.
>>
>> moncho
>
> That's a fair recommendation. I started the game with 14 and advanced
> to 15 after about three years. I won't even think about going to 16
> because I like to put a moderate hook on the ball. A heavier ball puts
> a premium on good balance at the line, not to mention a precise
> thumbhole fit.
>
> Dan
>

Your not kidding about the thumbhole fit. I have two 14lb balls and two
15 lbs all drilled by the same person and we have not been able to get
the 15 lb'ers to feel as good as the 14's.

Also, I seem to have tremendously better balance at the line with a 14.
Sometimes I will use my 15's on really oily lanes because it is
easier to slow the ball down but most of the time I will fall off to the
side during delivery. I have tried numerous techniques to stop falling
to the side, but to no avail.

moncho


 
Date: 16 Jan 2007 15:56:18
From: moncho
Subject: Re: ball weight
Shawn Robertson wrote:
> I use a 15 lb reactive ball. I was thinking of changing to a 14 lb ball
> for more control and less ware and tare on my bad shoulder (tendinitis)
> what do you think?

An extra lb can make a big difference (good or bad). I was using a 14lb
ball for about a year and then purchased a 15lb ball. I did notice a
difference in the power of the added weight. The only thing is I am a
weakling and am going back to a 14.

Found a good tip to discover what ball weight is good for you. I cannot
remember the site but when I find it I will post it.

Grip your ball like you normally would. Stand straight up and let the
ball hang down to your side. With your palm facing forward, just cup
your wrist and hold the ball for 10 seconds, rest for 5 seconds and then
cup your wrist again for another 10 seconds. Can you do this semi-easily?

If not, going to a 14 lb might just help.

I can do the above exercise 3 times in a row without any problem using
my 14lb ball, but my 15lb, I conk out at around 8 seconds. This tells
me that it would be to my benefit to use a 14lb ball to increase
control. This really helps in the 3rd game also.

moncho


 
Date: 15 Jan 2007 10:10:40
From: genob
Subject: Re: ball weight
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:10:49 -0800, spr27@webtv.net (Shawn Robertson)
wrote:

>I use a 15 lb reactive ball. I was thinking of changing to a 14 lb ball
>for more control and less ware and tare on my bad shoulder (tendinitis)
> what do you think?

When I started bowling (last year) I asked the local pro shop owner
about ball weight and he said that it was up to me :)

I went right into a 15lb ball.

At first it was very tough to throw (always felt too heavy). I then
started a physical training regiment. I picked up some dumbbells and
did curls to strengthen my biceps and forearms. Over time I was able
to really gain control of the ball.

I have some elbow and shoulder problems (prior to bowling) and from
time to time I get a little pain. I just try to take it easy and not
bowl like a maniac (basically NOT throwing it way harder than I need
too).

Bowling is DEFINITELY a sport of finesse and not power! There are 70
year old ladies in my league who bowl 160's throwing 8lb balls about 2
mph down the lane! :) That is what makes it such a great game
(Anybody can play)!!

Just my 2 cents!

g



  
Date: 15 Jan 2007 15:29:52
From: newsreader
Subject: Re: ball weight
genob wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 10:10:49 -0800, spr27@webtv.net (Shawn Robertson)
> wrote:
>
>> ...
>
> Bowling is DEFINITELY a sport of finesse and not power! There are 70
> year old ladies in my league who bowl 160's throwing 8lb balls about 2
> mph down the lane! :) That is what makes it such a great game
> (Anybody can play)!!

Agreed ! there are power bowlers but all the greats use/did use/
finesse. And they last a lot longer in their careers !
So many bowlers (esp. male ones) tense up (mistake) and try to throw it
or rip the skin off it.
Look at Tim Mack's problems..



 
Date: 14 Jan 2007 19:18:43
From: Darby
Subject: Re: ball weight

"Shawn Robertson" <spr27@webtv.net > wrote in message
news:11897-45AA7229-305@storefull-3311.bay.webtv.net...
>I use a 15 lb reactive ball. I was thinking of changing to a 14 lb ball
> for more control and less ware and tare on my bad shoulder (tendinitis)
> what do you think?
Shawn, I don't know how old you are, how big you are or your style of
bowling so it's hard to know whether you should go down in weight. If you
are hurting your shoulder you may be throwing the ball wrong in an attempt
to cross lots of boards. You should have a relaxed armswing that wouldn't
aggravate your shoulder. Have you had a coach teach you the basics? That
might be more helpful.
You should always bowl with as heavy ball as you can handle. I know a
200 pound woman that throws an 8 pound ball, that's all she can handle. If
you are older, like me, or smaller of stature you could need a lighter ball.
Ask at your Pro shop, they should have a good idea of your game. If not,
they can step out and watch you bowl.
Good luck,
Dar