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Date: 01 Jan 2005 21:29:44
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Subject: Speaking of being too slow.....
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.....how do guys like Tom Baker and Brian Voss keep so much energy in the
ball while throwing it (seemingly) very slow?
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Date: 15 Jan 2005 04:44:20
From: CPOWHR
Subject: Re: Speaking of being too slow.....
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>From: jvq684@crappynewyear.net
>.....how do guys like Tom Baker and Brian Voss keep so much energy in the
>ball while throwing it (seemingly) very slow?
By knowing how to put muscle in while taking speed out.
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Date: 05 Jan 2005 22:50:21
From: Strikes4Days
Subject: Re: Speaking of being too slow.....
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Yes, Tom Baker does spin the ball pretty good, signing with Brunswick
will be a good move for him. Voss is a tweener, he is more versatile,
he can spin it, he can roll it.
What BOTH of them do or don't do is hit up on the ball. The ball is
very clean off their hand, not using any energy, or "reading" the front
or first third of the lane. Most of the exempt players do this, have
an effortless clean release, no matter what position their hand is in.
Having a "soft" or "quiet" hand motion will loosen up your swing and
make you more accurate. You can have turn and still be clean, you just
won't be grinding the ball into the lane, making the ball read the lane
quickly/too quickly and burning up. This extra energy down lane helps
the ball hit better.
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Date: 01 Jan 2005 21:40:18
From: Smokey
Subject: Re: Speaking of being too slow.....
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> .....how do guys like Tom Baker and Brian Voss keep so much energy in the
> ball while throwing it (seemingly) very slow?
If you look at how their balls travel, you'll see that they ROLL more than
"spin". This allows the ball itself to "make the moves" based on its'
internal geometry, etc. (and how it may be drilled) rather than the bowler
trying to make the ball "perform".
Plus, they've been at it since the "Dark Ages" before urethane, rective, and
particle balls, so they know how to read lanes and such. ;)
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Date: 02 Jan 2005 13:47:49
From: Joe Zachar
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Smokey, a rolling ball is going to hook sooner. You need skid to get
the ball down the lane. Baker throws a low track spinner and his ball
does "spin" to get it down the lane. Voss is a "stroker" and he uses
the oil to get his ball to skid down the lane.
Joe Z
Smokey wrote:
>>.....how do guys like Tom Baker and Brian Voss keep so much energy in the
>>ball while throwing it (seemingly) very slow?
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>If you look at how their balls travel, you'll see that they ROLL more than
>"spin". This allows the ball itself to "make the moves" based on its'
>internal geometry, etc. (and how it may be drilled) rather than the bowler
>trying to make the ball "perform".
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>Plus, they've been at it since the "Dark Ages" before urethane, rective, and
>particle balls, so they know how to read lanes and such. ;)
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Smokey, a rolling ball is going to hook sooner. You need skid to get the
ball down the lane. Baker throws a low track spinner and his ball does "spin"
to get it down the lane. Voss is a "stroker" and he uses the oil to get
his ball to skid down the lane.<br >
<br >
Joe Z<br >
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Smokey wrote:<br >
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ball while throwing it (seemingly) very slow?
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If you look at how their balls travel, you'll see that they ROLL more than
"spin". This allows the ball itself to "make the moves" based on its'
internal geometry, etc. (and how it may be drilled) rather than the bowler
trying to make the ball "perform".
Plus, they've been at it since the "Dark Ages" before urethane, rective, and
particle balls, so they know how to read lanes and such. ;)
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Date: 02 Jan 2005 19:18:04
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You're absolutely right about Baker.....watching him win last year =
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Date: 02 Jan 2005 23:45:57
From: Joe Zachar
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I think it was mentioned in the telecast that he throws a spinner. John
Jowdy, well know coach and auther of bowling books also mentioned it his
book "Bowling Execution".
Joe Z
jvq684@crappynewyear.net wrote:
> You're absolutely right about Baker.....watching him win last year
> throwing that slow spinner just blew my mind.
>
> "Joe Zachar" <jzacharzard@optonline.net
> <mailto:jzacharzard@optonline.net>> wrote in message
> news:41D841D5.4010604@optonline.net...
> Smokey, a rolling ball is going to hook sooner. You need skid to
> get the ball down the lane. Baker throws a low track spinner and
> his ball does "spin" to get it down the lane. Voss is a "stroker"
> and he uses the oil to get his ball to skid down the lane.
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I think it was mentioned in the telecast that he throws a spinner. John
Jowdy, well know coach and auther of bowling books also mentioned it his
book "Bowling Execution".<br >
<br >
Joe Z<br >
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jvq684@crappynewyear.net" >jvq684@crappynewyear.net</a> wrote:<br>
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Smokey, a rolling ball is going to hook sooner. You need skid to get
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does "spin" to get it down the lane. Voss is a "stroker" and he uses
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Date: 02 Jan 2005 13:33:33
From: Smokey
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Smokey, a rolling ball is going to hook sooner. You need skid to get =
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the oil to get his ball to skid down the lane.
Gee, I'm sure glad guys like YOU are here to keep me straight. :)
Hope your New Year is going well... :)
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Date: 02 Jan 2005 23:44:12
From: Joe Zachar
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Smokey wrote:
> Smokey, a rolling ball is going to hook sooner. You need skid to get
> the ball down the lane. Baker throws a low track spinner and his ball
> does "spin" to get it down the lane. Voss is a "stroker" and he uses
> the oil to get his ball to skid down the lane.
>
> Gee, I'm sure glad guys like YOU are here to keep me straight. :)
>
> Hope your New Year is going well... :)
I'm glad to help YOU. If you want to e-mail me we can confer on the
answers and you can post them. ; )
My New Year is going good (knock on wood). One of my friends said he
was going to drop-off the newest issue of Bowling This Month on Monday.
There is nothing like reading a good bowling magazine to mess up you
game (and head).
Anyway, hop your New Year is a good one too.
Joe Z
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Smokey wrote:<br >
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a rolling ball is going to hook sooner. You need skid to get the ball down
the lane. Baker throws a low track spinner and his ball does "spin" to
get it down the lane. Voss is a "stroker" and he uses the oil to get his
ball to skid down the lane.</div >
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<div ><font face="Arial" size="2">Gee, I'm sure glad guys like YOU are here
to keep me straight. :)</font ></div>
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<div ><font face="Arial" size="2">Hope your New Year is going well... :)</font><br>
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I'm glad to help YOU. If you want to e-mail me we can confer on the answers
and you can post them. ; )<br >
<br >
My New Year is going good (knock on wood). One of my friends said he was
going to drop-off the newest issue of Bowling This Month on Monday. There
is nothing like reading a good bowling magazine to mess up you game (and
head). <br >
<br >
Anyway, hop your New Year is a good one too.<br >
<br >
Joe Z<br >
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Date: 02 Jan 2005 14:14:23
From: John O
Subject: Re: Speaking of being too slow.....
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>rective,
I have a couple of those balls...they're pure shite. :-)
-John O
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