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Date: 10 May 2007 03:42:35
From: RM
Subject: Question Regarding Grip for Spare Ball
I've been bowling for about four years now. My average is kind of low at
154 but I think that's primarily due to my inability to make easy spares
most of the time.
I think what I lack is any kind of consistency in how I throw my spare ball
(White Dot). What I have been doing is basically throwing it straight
(fingers on top of the ball) without any kind of wrist cupping/bending at
all. The thing is, my spare ball was drilled for a finger tip grip and has
inserts in it. Would I have better results pulling out those inserts or
would it not matter with the way I'm throwing it anyway? I'm hoping to
improve my avg this coming year. However, I have to figure out a way to
make spares consistentl first.




 
Date: 11 May 2007 12:38:34
From: litefrozen
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Grip for Spare Ball
In article <Lww0i.170195$DE1.59169@pd7urf2no >, RM <rmark@REMOVE_THISshaw.ca> wrote:

> I've been bowling for about four years now. My average is kind of low at
> 154 but I think that's primarily due to my inability to make easy spares
> most of the time.
> I think what I lack is any kind of consistency in how I throw my spare ball
> (White Dot). What I have been doing is basically throwing it straight
> (fingers on top of the ball) without any kind of wrist cupping/bending at
> all. The thing is, my spare ball was drilled for a finger tip grip and has
> inserts in it. Would I have better results pulling out those inserts or
> would it not matter with the way I'm throwing it anyway? I'm hoping to
> improve my avg this coming year. However, I have to figure out a way to
> make spares consistentl first.



Here's a link this talks about spare shooting, it has a picture of the hand position.

"Success in todays spare game"
http://www.bowlingknowledge.com/tips/borden/fb200111.pdf

As for pulling the finger grips out "DON'T" it wont fit right and it might hurt your fingers too.
Also I get the impression that the spare ball wasn't drilled for you, since you asked about pulling
the grips out in the first place. If it wasnt then you need to get it fitted to you.So get it Plugged and
redrilledor just get a new one thats been fitted to you. A proper fit makes a big difference in you release.


  
Date: 12 May 2007 23:06:23
From: RM
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Grip for Spare Ball
Thanks for the link. Actually the spare ball was drilled for me. The
reason I asked whether I should remove the inserts or not was
related my original question about the grip. I'll keep them in there then
and try to get behind the ball as recommended.

By the way, my targets are the arrows and I'll line up and try to throw it
the appropriate one. For the 7 and 10 pins, I stand diagonally to it and
throw over the third arrows.


   
Date: 08 Feb 2008 11:15:04
From: Kirwan Tenpin
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Grip for Spare Ball
When shooting for the seven and ten pins especially, most beginner bowlers
don't line their shoulders up correctly - perpendicular to the line they
want to roll the ball along. You need to pivot your feet to the left (7 pin)
or right (10 pin) to make sure you are swinging directly towards the target.
One easy way to do this is to take your normal stance, then bring your left
foot back 3-4 inches when shooting the 7 pin, or forward when shooting a ten
pin. This will align your shoulders correctly for the cross-lane shot,
without having to stress over whether you need to pivot 1/8th or 1/10 of a
board.

Good luck.
Rob.


"RM" <rmark@REMOVE_THISshaw.ca > wrote in message
news:PLr1i.176622$DE1.120503@pd7urf2no...
> Thanks for the link. Actually the spare ball was drilled for me. The
> reason I asked whether I should remove the inserts or not was
> related my original question about the grip. I'll keep them in there then
> and try to get behind the ball as recommended.
>
> By the way, my targets are the arrows and I'll line up and try to throw it
> the appropriate one. For the 7 and 10 pins, I stand diagonally to it and
> throw over the third arrows.




 
Date: 10 May 2007 17:11:53
From:
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Grip for Spare Ball
On May 10, 12:42 pm, "RM" <rmark@REMOVE_THISshaw.ca > wrote:
> I've been bowling for about four years now. My average is kind of low at
> 154 but I think that's primarily due to my inability to make easy spares
> most of the time.
> I think what I lack is any kind of consistency in how I throw my spare ball
> (White Dot). What I have been doing is basically throwing it straight
> (fingers on top of the ball) without any kind of wrist cupping/bending at
> all. The thing is, my spare ball was drilled for a finger tip grip and has
> inserts in it. Would I have better results pulling out those inserts or
> would it not matter with the way I'm throwing it anyway? I'm hoping to
> improve my avg this coming year. However, I have to figure out a way to
> make spares consistentl first.

I think the point is at the aiming not grip. I keep looking a line
between three dots right before my standing line. I try to send my
ball consistently following the line not looking at the pins far away.
This is called 'line aiming.' This, I hope, could be a help to make
easy spares.



  
Date: 11 May 2007 17:52:08
From: Darby
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Grip for Spare Ball
It'd nice that this works for you. However, it is not the standard way to
line up for spares. I've been coaching for 27+ years and I don't think
looking at dots at the foul line will help as much as looking at a point
further out on the lane. A coach could help the bowler line up better than
what he is currently doing for spares. The USBC Bowler's magazine has
helpful advice for making spares or other common bowling targets. Perhaps
some readers here can offer sites that have such tips?
I assumed the bowler has some marks already in mind and is not hitting
those marks. When I advised keeping your hand under the ball, it was to help
the bowler hit the target on the lane for any they throw at.
Dar

<pjaegull@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1178842313.719241.147500@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On May 10, 12:42 pm, "RM" <rmark@REMOVE_THISshaw.ca> wrote:
>> I've been bowling for about four years now. My average is kind of low at
>> 154 but I think that's primarily due to my inability to make easy spares
>> most of the time.
>> I think what I lack is any kind of consistency in how I throw my spare
>> ball
>> (White Dot). What I have been doing is basically throwing it straight
>> (fingers on top of the ball) without any kind of wrist cupping/bending at
>> all. The thing is, my spare ball was drilled for a finger tip grip and
>> has
>> inserts in it. Would I have better results pulling out those inserts or
>> would it not matter with the way I'm throwing it anyway? I'm hoping to
>> improve my avg this coming year. However, I have to figure out a way to
>> make spares consistentl first.
>
> I think the point is at the aiming not grip. I keep looking a line
> between three dots right before my standing line. I try to send my
> ball consistently following the line not looking at the pins far away.
> This is called 'line aiming.' This, I hope, could be a help to make
> easy spares.
>




 
Date: 10 May 2007 03:49:21
From: Darby
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Grip for Spare Ball
To throw a straight ball you have your palm and fingers under the ball (
thumb at 3:00) and roll it without turning your hand/wrist. It's like
rolling the large V-8 juice can with an underhand motion. Try doing that and
follow through, up the boards and over the mark you are aiming at.
Dar

"RM" <rmark@REMOVE_THISshaw.ca > wrote in message
news:Lww0i.170195$DE1.59169@pd7urf2no...
> I've been bowling for about four years now. My average is kind of low at
> 154 but I think that's primarily due to my inability to make easy spares
> most of the time.
> I think what I lack is any kind of consistency in how I throw my spare
> ball
> (White Dot). What I have been doing is basically throwing it straight
> (fingers on top of the ball) without any kind of wrist cupping/bending at
> all. The thing is, my spare ball was drilled for a finger tip grip and
> has
> inserts in it. Would I have better results pulling out those inserts or
> would it not matter with the way I'm throwing it anyway? I'm hoping to
> improve my avg this coming year. However, I have to figure out a way to
> make spares consistentl first.




  
Date: 11 May 2007 04:07:24
From: RM
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Grip for Spare Ball
Thanks for the advice Dar but I need some clarification.

Ok, if I cup my wrist (facing upwards) and set the ball in my hand (holes
pointing downwards), my thumb would be in the 6 o'clock position as my
fingers would be in the 12 o'clock position (top view). How can I have the
thumb at the 3 o'clock position unless I don't stick it in the thumb hole?


   
Date: 11 May 2007 08:54:29
From: newsreader
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Grip for Spare Ball
Ignore the hand position for a minute. A shiny spare ball should go
pretty straight no matter what you do with it (within normal parameters).
Can you hit your target board ?
Are you walking in the correct direction (towards your target) ?

Trying to conjure up a hand position often leads to over-muscling and an
early hit (on the downswing) and hence shoulder rotation that ruins
accuracy.

If you can hit your target and you miss your spare (using your spare
ball) it just means you stood in the wrong place - all things being
equal. A good local qualified instructor is your best bet. I don't
recommend copying bowler A or bowler B.


RM wrote:
> Thanks for the advice Dar but I need some clarification.
>
> Ok, if I cup my wrist (facing upwards) and set the ball in my hand (holes
> pointing downwards), my thumb would be in the 6 o'clock position as my
> fingers would be in the 12 o'clock position (top view). How can I have the
> thumb at the 3 o'clock position unless I don't stick it in the thumb hole?