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Date: 11 May 2007 17:57:11
From: DRA
Subject: Lefties At Nationals?
If there are any lefties that have been to Nationals this year, what ball
and line seems to work best.

I have...

Awesome Hook
Infinite One
Big One
Odyssey
Mystic
Venus
and less aggressive equipment.

Thanks -

Don






 
Date: 12 May 2007 18:11:11
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Lefties At Nationals?
I'm not a lefty but I watched some bowl. There isn't much on the left
side this year but considering that lefties owned the NBS for over a
decade this didn't bother me a whole lot :-)

Our lefties are all medium speed / medium rev players and they were OK
playing a breakpoint around 10-12 but the shot started tight and
stayed tight for them. When they executed well they could carry but
there was no significant room for error. This seems to be a consistent
perspective from other lefty friends through the tournament. I watched
Eric Forkel bowl his team squad and he had better than average success
once he moved in a bit. Eric also has better than average skills so
YMMV. I didn't see any lefties try to play the ditch. If you have that
ability it's probably worth a shot but I don't think it'll hold up as
the ditched seems to be a fake.

The right side is better than the left if you get a good pair and a
good cross. The best scoring that I'm aware of has come from folks
that have been able to play 20-25 out to a breakpoint at 10-12 board.
The best scoring equipment seems to be medium to strong solids and
stronger pearl particals.

Ciao,

Mark



 
Date: 12 May 2007 06:54:42
From: Ringo
Subject: Re: Lefties At Nationals?
As any right hand bowler knows, it doesn't matter what a lefty throws.
As long as a lefty keeps it on the lane the ball will find the pocket.

"DRA" <damacker@tx.rr.com > wrote in message
news:4644f44f$0$3259$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> If there are any lefties that have been to Nationals this year, what ball
> and line seems to work best.
>
> I have...
>
> Awesome Hook
> Infinite One
> Big One
> Odyssey
> Mystic
> Venus
> and less aggressive equipment.
>
> Thanks -
>
> Don
>
>




  
Date: 12 May 2007 10:43:28
From: Ken Zwyers
Subject: Re: Lefties At Nationals?
I wish it were that easy! :-)

"Ringo" <ringo55@cox.net > wrote in message
news:MGj1i.273206$115.143979@newsfe10.phx...
> As any right hand bowler knows, it doesn't matter what a lefty throws.
> As long as a lefty keeps it on the lane the ball will find the pocket.
>
> "DRA" <damacker@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4644f44f$0$3259$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> If there are any lefties that have been to Nationals this year, what ball
>> and line seems to work best.
>>
>> I have...
>>
>> Awesome Hook
>> Infinite One
>> Big One
>> Odyssey
>> Mystic
>> Venus
>> and less aggressive equipment.
>>
>> Thanks -
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>
>




 
Date: 11 May 2007 23:22:58
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: Lefties At Nationals?
What I've gathered regarding today's Tournament conditions tells me
balls using "early roll" drilling (i.e. pin above or below the
fingers), Low-RG/mid-Diff cores and medium-aggressive coverstocks are
the Best Way To Go.

As you entered, working around the "track" line (i.e. 'tween 6 and 12
boards) with a "down and in" stroker shot seems to produce the best
overall results (carry, etc.).



 
Date: 12 May 2007 00:32:41
From: Ken Zwyers
Subject: Re: Lefties At Nationals?
Well, I can't tell you what worked, but I can tell you what didn't! I used
a Storm X-Factor, Storm X-Factor Deuce, and a Brunswick PBA Inferno.
Couldn't get any of them to hook much at all. It seemed that very few
people were successful trying to go with a large hook. Even if they got the
ball to turn, the slightest inconsistency (e.g., difference in speed or
revs) kept the ball from hitting its mark. The best bet seemed to be to go
with an outside line. You might not get as much pin action as you'll like,
but you'll leave less washouts and splits, and give yourself a chance for
spares.

Good luck!

"DRA" <damacker@tx.rr.com > wrote in message
news:4644f44f$0$3259$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> If there are any lefties that have been to Nationals this year, what ball
> and line seems to work best.
>
> I have...
>
> Awesome Hook
> Infinite One
> Big One
> Odyssey
> Mystic
> Venus
> and less aggressive equipment.
>
> Thanks -
>
> Don
>
>




  
Date: 12 May 2007 04:38:01
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: Lefties At Nationals?
Many of the "Team Internet" bowlers did very well this year. This was my
second best series ever. Not to contradict what Ken wrote, but no one
that bowled with us had any success outside 10 board... in fact, if I
hadn't have tried the outside in game three of my team event I would
have easily shot an 1800 series. The shot was somewhat wet for team
event and the oil carried down causing the fresh snappy backends to go
away by mid game 2. If you refrain from chasing the line out you will
find that by keeping the line tight and staying inside you will do fine.
Singles and Doubles was a whole different ball game. The shot opened up
big time on the inside shot (just ask Chip, who is still leading Regular
Singles with an 814 series). I played 15 at the arrows out to the 12-10
board area at my break point and shot 604 in Doubles and 640 in Singles.
Chip and some of our other big ballers were playing around middle arrow.
I threw my Storm Pyro the entire time. Very rarely does Nationals give
you the outside shot. It isn't impossible to play outside but you will
pay dearly for minor mistakes... as i can attest. If I hadn't have moved
back inside for my 9th and 10th frame of my 3rd Team game I wouldn't
have salvaged a 145 game that included 6 open frames. Besides that game,
my second lowest game was a 188.

Ken Zwyers wrote:
> Well, I can't tell you what worked, but I can tell you what didn't! I used
> a Storm X-Factor, Storm X-Factor Deuce, and a Brunswick PBA Inferno.
> Couldn't get any of them to hook much at all. It seemed that very few
> people were successful trying to go with a large hook. Even if they got the
> ball to turn, the slightest inconsistency (e.g., difference in speed or
> revs) kept the ball from hitting its mark. The best bet seemed to be to go
> with an outside line. You might not get as much pin action as you'll like,
> but you'll leave less washouts and splits, and give yourself a chance for
> spares.
>
> Good luck!
>
> "DRA" <damacker@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4644f44f$0$3259$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> If there are any lefties that have been to Nationals this year, what ball
>> and line seems to work best.
>>
>> I have...
>>
>> Awesome Hook
>> Infinite One
>> Big One
>> Odyssey
>> Mystic
>> Venus
>> and less aggressive equipment.
>>
>> Thanks -
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>
>


   
Date: 12 May 2007 10:43:04
From: Ken Zwyers
Subject: Re: Lefties At Nationals?
I guess that the question I have is, are you all lefties? I was only
speaking for the left-handers, per the question in original post. Less
people bowling on our side, so the lanes never really broke down, at least
not as much as for the right-handers.

I did notice that, for the right-handers, once the lanes broke down some,
they were able to move left with some success.

"Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com > wrote in message
news:4645a719$0$1413$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Many of the "Team Internet" bowlers did very well this year. This was my
> second best series ever. Not to contradict what Ken wrote, but no one that
> bowled with us had any success outside 10 board... in fact, if I hadn't
> have tried the outside in game three of my team event I would have easily
> shot an 1800 series. The shot was somewhat wet for team event and the oil
> carried down causing the fresh snappy backends to go away by mid game 2.
> If you refrain from chasing the line out you will find that by keeping the
> line tight and staying inside you will do fine. Singles and Doubles was a
> whole different ball game. The shot opened up big time on the inside shot
> (just ask Chip, who is still leading Regular Singles with an 814 series).
> I played 15 at the arrows out to the 12-10 board area at my break point
> and shot 604 in Doubles and 640 in Singles. Chip and some of our other big
> ballers were playing around middle arrow. I threw my Storm Pyro the entire
> time. Very rarely does Nationals give you the outside shot. It isn't
> impossible to play outside but you will pay dearly for minor mistakes...
> as i can attest. If I hadn't have moved back inside for my 9th and 10th
> frame of my 3rd Team game I wouldn't have salvaged a 145 game that
> included 6 open frames. Besides that game, my second lowest game was a
> 188.
>
> Ken Zwyers wrote:
>> Well, I can't tell you what worked, but I can tell you what didn't! I
>> used a Storm X-Factor, Storm X-Factor Deuce, and a Brunswick PBA Inferno.
>> Couldn't get any of them to hook much at all. It seemed that very few
>> people were successful trying to go with a large hook. Even if they got
>> the ball to turn, the slightest inconsistency (e.g., difference in speed
>> or revs) kept the ball from hitting its mark. The best bet seemed to be
>> to go with an outside line. You might not get as much pin action as
>> you'll like, but you'll leave less washouts and splits, and give yourself
>> a chance for spares.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> "DRA" <damacker@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4644f44f$0$3259$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> If there are any lefties that have been to Nationals this year, what
>>> ball and line seems to work best.
>>>
>>> I have...
>>>
>>> Awesome Hook
>>> Infinite One
>>> Big One
>>> Odyssey
>>> Mystic
>>> Venus
>>> and less aggressive equipment.
>>>
>>> Thanks -
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>



    
Date: 12 May 2007 12:18:13
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: Lefties At Nationals?
All of us lefties? Don't be silly. ;-)
But even our lefties, of which we had plenty, had to play inside right
along with us righties... just not quite as deep when the lanes broke down.

Ken Zwyers wrote:
> I guess that the question I have is, are you all lefties? I was only
> speaking for the left-handers, per the question in original post. Less
> people bowling on our side, so the lanes never really broke down, at least
> not as much as for the right-handers.
>
> I did notice that, for the right-handers, once the lanes broke down some,
> they were able to move left with some success.
>
> "Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:4645a719$0$1413$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Many of the "Team Internet" bowlers did very well this year. This was my
>> second best series ever. Not to contradict what Ken wrote, but no one that
>> bowled with us had any success outside 10 board... in fact, if I hadn't
>> have tried the outside in game three of my team event I would have easily
>> shot an 1800 series. The shot was somewhat wet for team event and the oil
>> carried down causing the fresh snappy backends to go away by mid game 2.
>> If you refrain from chasing the line out you will find that by keeping the
>> line tight and staying inside you will do fine. Singles and Doubles was a
>> whole different ball game. The shot opened up big time on the inside shot
>> (just ask Chip, who is still leading Regular Singles with an 814 series).
>> I played 15 at the arrows out to the 12-10 board area at my break point
>> and shot 604 in Doubles and 640 in Singles. Chip and some of our other big
>> ballers were playing around middle arrow. I threw my Storm Pyro the entire
>> time. Very rarely does Nationals give you the outside shot. It isn't
>> impossible to play outside but you will pay dearly for minor mistakes...
>> as i can attest. If I hadn't have moved back inside for my 9th and 10th
>> frame of my 3rd Team game I wouldn't have salvaged a 145 game that
>> included 6 open frames. Besides that game, my second lowest game was a
>> 188.
>>
>> Ken Zwyers wrote:
>>> Well, I can't tell you what worked, but I can tell you what didn't! I
>>> used a Storm X-Factor, Storm X-Factor Deuce, and a Brunswick PBA Inferno.
>>> Couldn't get any of them to hook much at all. It seemed that very few
>>> people were successful trying to go with a large hook. Even if they got
>>> the ball to turn, the slightest inconsistency (e.g., difference in speed
>>> or revs) kept the ball from hitting its mark. The best bet seemed to be
>>> to go with an outside line. You might not get as much pin action as
>>> you'll like, but you'll leave less washouts and splits, and give yourself
>>> a chance for spares.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> "DRA" <damacker@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4644f44f$0$3259$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>> If there are any lefties that have been to Nationals this year, what
>>>> ball and line seems to work best.
>>>>
>>>> I have...
>>>>
>>>> Awesome Hook
>>>> Infinite One
>>>> Big One
>>>> Odyssey
>>>> Mystic
>>>> Venus
>>>> and less aggressive equipment.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks -
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>