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Date: 14 Oct 2008 08:20:45
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Subject: League Question
I have a league bowling question. I am in two leagues and they are both somewhat
competitive but mostly fun leagues. They are both on a Friday night with one
beginning at 7pm & the other at 9:15pm. We have noticed that the lanes get oiled
at about 6:30pm in preparation. Let's say that our first league utilizes lanes 1-10.
Our 9pm league uses lanes 11-16. While in the first league we see the house
allowing some open bowling on a couple of those lanes. The house has 32 lanes
so it was kind of odd to see people bowling on those 9pm league lanes when other
(non-league) lanes are available. After our 7pm league is done, we move across
to the 9pm side and have to figure out the lane condition as some were bowled upon
and some were not and the house does not re-oil those lanes.
In thinking that this may offer some teams either an advantage or disadvantage,
I brought this up to our league's secretary as well as the house and both blew me off
and said basically said that pretty much nothing can be done about it.
I am only an amature with a 170 average but I can tell the difference when
in my 10 min. pre-bowl practice that the 2 lanes I am going to be on for the
rest of the night are playing so different because one is burnt & the other is not.
Maybe nothing can be done about this but don't I reserve the right to watch who
is bowling on what lane and using what equipment (plastic or reactive) and
playing what line so I can give my team the best info about those lanes?
Please don't misinterpret, I am not whining. Like any good bowler, we deal with
the situation and make the adjustments to bowl our best and hopefully we come
out on top. Basically, taking mental notes about those lanes prior to league
is not unfair or is it?








 
Date: 15 Oct 2008 03:02:52
From: Darlene Block
Subject: Re: League Question
What you are describing is normal in most bowling centers. I bowl at 1:00 on
Tuesday afternoon. Our lanes are freshly dressed, but with more oil than
other women's leagues because two more shifts will bowl on them without them
being dressed again. There is a 3:45 youth league followed by a 6:30 women's
league.
There are all sorts of bowling conditions that league bowlers are faced
with. Yours is far from being poor or unfair. If you have the chance to
observe what is happening on the lanes prior to your bowling on them it is
completely fair.
If you can make adjustments from those observations and what you
experience when you throw a few balls on the lanes, good for you. Your game
is improving. The more adjustments you realize you need to make, the better
bowler you become. It is an opportunity to learn not an unfair situation.
Dar

<Skyler36@nospam.com > wrote
>I have a league bowling question. I am in two leagues and they are both
>somewhat
> competitive but mostly fun leagues. They are both on a Friday night with
> one
> beginning at 7pm & the other at 9:15pm. We have noticed that the lanes
> get oiled
> at about 6:30pm in preparation. Let's say that our first league utilizes
> lanes 1-10.
> Our 9pm league uses lanes 11-16. While in the first league we see the
> house
> allowing some open bowling on a couple of those lanes. The house has 32
> lanes
> so it was kind of odd to see people bowling on those 9pm league lanes when
> other
> (non-league) lanes are available. After our 7pm league is done, we move
> across
> to the 9pm side and have to figure out the lane condition as some were
> bowled upon
> and some were not and the house does not re-oil those lanes.
> In thinking that this may offer some teams either an advantage or
> disadvantage,
> I brought this up to our league's secretary as well as the house and both
> blew me off
> and said basically said that pretty much nothing can be done about it.
> I am only an amature with a 170 average but I can tell the difference when
> in my 10 min. pre-bowl practice that the 2 lanes I am going to be on for
> the
> rest of the night are playing so different because one is burnt & the
> other is not.
> Maybe nothing can be done about this but don't I reserve the right to
> watch who
> is bowling on what lane and using what equipment (plastic or reactive) and
> playing what line so I can give my team the best info about those lanes?
> Please don't misinterpret, I am not whining. Like any good bowler, we
> deal with
> the situation and make the adjustments to bowl our best and hopefully we
> come
> out on top. Basically, taking mental notes about those lanes prior to
> league
> is not unfair or is it?
>
>
>
>




 
Date: 14 Oct 2008 05:57:44
From: GenPounder
Subject: Re: League Question
On Oct 14, 3:20=A0am, <Skyle...@nospam.com > wrote:
> I have a league bowling question. =A0I am in two leagues and they are bot=
h somewhat
> competitive but mostly fun leagues. =A0 They are both on a Friday night w=
ith one
> beginning at 7pm & the other at 9:15pm. =A0We have noticed that the lanes=
get oiled
> at about 6:30pm in preparation. =A0Let's say that our first league utiliz=
es lanes 1-10.
> Our 9pm league uses lanes 11-16. =A0While in the first league we see the =
house
> allowing some open bowling on a couple of those lanes. =A0 The house has =
32 lanes
> so it was kind of odd to see people bowling on those 9pm league lanes whe=
n other
> (non-league) =A0lanes are available. =A0After our 7pm league is done, we =
move across
> to the 9pm side and have to figure out the lane condition as some were bo=
wled upon
> and some were not and the house does not re-oil those lanes.
> In thinking that this may offer some teams either an advantage or disadva=
ntage,
> I brought this up to our league's secretary as well as the house and both=
blew me off
> and said basically said that pretty much nothing can be done about it.
> I am only an amature with a 170 average but I can tell the difference whe=
n
> in my 10 min. pre-bowl practice that the 2 lanes I am going to be on for =
the
> rest of the night are playing so different because one is burnt & the oth=
er is not.
> Maybe nothing can be done about this but don't I reserve the right to wat=
ch who
> is bowling on what lane and using what equipment (plastic or reactive) an=
d
> playing what line so I can give my team the best info about those lanes?
> Please don't misinterpret, I am not whining. =A0Like any good bowler, we =
deal with
> the situation and make the adjustments to bowl our best and hopefully we =
come
> out on top. =A0Basically, taking mental notes about those lanes prior to =
league
> is not unfair or is it?

You have to go to your league contract. If your league contract
states that the lanes are oil previous to your bowling/that you will
get fresh oil, you can go to the house and complain. Having league
bowlers bowl on a lane and having open bowlers bowl on a lane before a
league are 2 COMPLETELY different things. League bowlers will
generally play around 10 and push the oil around and burn a spot
there. Open bowlers will play right down the middle and burn the
middle up. Over a few games, it will push the oil out and create
something like a reverse block pattern. I would talk with the league
pres. and ask to see the contract and discus it with him/her.


 
Date: 14 Oct 2008 07:56:36
From: moncho
Subject: Re: League Question
Skyler36@nospam.com wrote:
> I have a league bowling question. I am in two leagues and they are both somewhat
> competitive but mostly fun leagues. They are both on a Friday night with one
> beginning at 7pm & the other at 9:15pm. We have noticed that the lanes get oiled
> at about 6:30pm in preparation. Let's say that our first league utilizes lanes 1-10.
> Our 9pm league uses lanes 11-16. While in the first league we see the house
> allowing some open bowling on a couple of those lanes. The house has 32 lanes
> so it was kind of odd to see people bowling on those 9pm league lanes when other
> (non-league) lanes are available. After our 7pm league is done, we move across
> to the 9pm side and have to figure out the lane condition as some were bowled upon
> and some were not and the house does not re-oil those lanes.
> In thinking that this may offer some teams either an advantage or disadvantage,
> I brought this up to our league's secretary as well as the house and both blew me off
> and said basically said that pretty much nothing can be done about it.
> I am only an amature with a 170 average but I can tell the difference when
> in my 10 min. pre-bowl practice that the 2 lanes I am going to be on for the
> rest of the night are playing so different because one is burnt & the other is not.
> Maybe nothing can be done about this but don't I reserve the right to watch who
> is bowling on what lane and using what equipment (plastic or reactive) and
> playing what line so I can give my team the best info about those lanes?
> Please don't misinterpret, I am not whining. Like any good bowler, we deal with
> the situation and make the adjustments to bowl our best and hopefully we come
> out on top. Basically, taking mental notes about those lanes prior to league
> is not unfair or is it?

It is not necessarily unfair, but it is bad customer service. The house
should re-oil the lanes prior to bowling if there was open bowling on
the lanes.

I bowl at multiple houses with many leagues and they do not oil
the lanes between leagues that start at 6:00 and 9:00. The
9:00 league expects different conditions.

I say it would be good customer service if the house re-oiled the
lanes after "open bowling."

The least the house could do is to contain the open bowlers to
a few sets of lanes depending upon the amount of bowlers and then
re-oil on those certain pairs.

moncho