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Date: 07 Feb 2005 04:51:35
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: I saw a first tonight!
A friend and teammate of mine (Mrs. Cookies to some people here) left
the 1-7-10 tonight. The remarkable part was that I told here to just
throw a strike shot and try to get two... she pulled it Brooklyn and
picked it up... by far the strangest thing I've ever seen!




 
Date: 13 Feb 2005 06:51:05
From: Mark
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!

Tony R Smith wrote:
> but have never converted the 7-10 and I doubt I ever will.

You never can tell. It's random chance so everytime is a fresh
opportunity to get lucky! I don't throw that hard and have made the
7-10 three times. I have also taken the 7-10 off the big-4 which was
ammusing. Thus far I'm averaging one 7-10 conversion per 12 years of
bowling :)

-Mark



 
Date: 07 Feb 2005 23:16:29
From: Ken Zwyers
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
That was one of the trick shots on the PBA telecast recently. It's a lot
harder than it looks. In fact, it might even be harder to leave the 1-7-10
than it is to pick it up!

"Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com > wrote in message
news:rtCNd.8630$WD4.4022@twister.socal.rr.com...
> A friend and teammate of mine (Mrs. Cookies to some people here) left
> the 1-7-10 tonight. The remarkable part was that I told here to just
> throw a strike shot and try to get two... she pulled it Brooklyn and
> picked it up... by far the strangest thing I've ever seen!




  
Date: 08 Feb 2005 18:01:28
From: Swabbie
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
my thoughts exactly. I've picked up the 1-7-10 many times, its actually not
what I would consider a very hard pickup.
But,everytime I have ever left it, I have always thought ,"how in the hell
is it even possible to leave that?"

--

"Ken Zwyers" <l.zwyers@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:r4-dncaAo4jD1pXfRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> That was one of the trick shots on the PBA telecast recently. It's a lot
> harder than it looks. In fact, it might even be harder to leave the
> 1-7-10
> than it is to pick it up!
>
> "Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:rtCNd.8630$WD4.4022@twister.socal.rr.com...
>> A friend and teammate of mine (Mrs. Cookies to some people here) left
>> the 1-7-10 tonight. The remarkable part was that I told here to just
>> throw a strike shot and try to get two... she pulled it Brooklyn and
>> picked it up... by far the strangest thing I've ever seen!
>
>



   
Date: 09 Feb 2005 02:23:31
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
You have picked it up "many" times?!?! I have never left it! Me thinks
me smells a troll!

Swabbie wrote:

> my thoughts exactly. I've picked up the 1-7-10 many times, its actually
> not what I would consider a very hard pickup.
> But,everytime I have ever left it, I have always thought ,"how in the
> hell is it even possible to leave that?"
>


    
Date: 09 Feb 2005 05:45:50
From: Swabbie
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
been bowling for 40 years..me thinks you need to get your nose checked

--

"Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com > wrote in message
news:DueOd.9839$WD4.5756@twister.socal.rr.com...
> You have picked it up "many" times?!?! I have never left it! Me thinks me
> smells a troll!
>
> Swabbie wrote:
>
>> my thoughts exactly. I've picked up the 1-7-10 many times, its actually
>> not what I would consider a very hard pickup.
>> But,everytime I have ever left it, I have always thought ,"how in the
>> hell is it even possible to leave that?"
>>



     
Date: 09 Feb 2005 12:11:56
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
I can't say that I have been bowling for 40 years... since I am 40 years
old, but I have been bowling since 1976 and have carried a 200+ average
since 1995, and have 3 perfect games to my credit... and my nose is just
fine, thank you!

Swabbie wrote:

> been bowling for 40 years..me thinks you need to get your nose checked
>


      
Date: 10 Feb 2005 00:34:42
From: D K
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
Hey now ... I REALLY saw a first on tonight's rebroadcast of Sunday's PBA
finals. I cannot believe no comment here on WRWjr's pick of the big 4
Sunday. I have only never seen it done before on, TV or in person. I
have it on tape and hadn't watch the show yet but was flipping around the
dial and got lucky.

Tony R Smith wrote:

> I can't say that I have been bowling for 40 years... since I am 40 years
> old, but I have been bowling since 1976 and have carried a 200+ average
> since 1995, and have 3 perfect games to my credit... and my nose is just
> fine, thank you!
>
> Swabbie wrote:
>
> > been bowling for 40 years..me thinks you need to get your nose checked
> >

--
For you to be successful, sacrifices must be made.
It's better that they are made by others but failing
that, you'll have to make them yourself.
-Rita Mae Brown-




       
Date: 10 Feb 2005 07:56:52
From: mhood
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
What???? Have I got bad breath or something? Check the second post in
this thread. :-)

mhood

D K wrote:

>Hey now ... I REALLY saw a first on tonight's rebroadcast of Sunday's PBA
>finals. I cannot believe no comment here on WRWjr's pick of the big 4
>Sunday. I have only never seen it done before on, TV or in person. I
>have it on tape and hadn't watch the show yet but was flipping around the
>dial and got lucky.
>
>Tony R Smith wrote:
>
>
>
>>I can't say that I have been bowling for 40 years... since I am 40 years
>>old, but I have been bowling since 1976 and have carried a 200+ average
>>since 1995, and have 3 perfect games to my credit... and my nose is just
>>fine, thank you!
>>
>>Swabbie wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>been bowling for 40 years..me thinks you need to get your nose checked
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>--
>For you to be successful, sacrifices must be made.
> It's better that they are made by others but failing
> that, you'll have to make them yourself.
> -Rita Mae Brown-
>
>
>
>


        
Date: 10 Feb 2005 22:24:34
From: D K
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
Don't know fer sure about the breath thing ... I missed your post somehow. Not
every post shows up here, but when I scrolled back, yours was there - marked as
read no less.hmmmm

mhood wrote:

> What???? Have I got bad breath or something? Check the second post in
> this thread. :-)
>
> mhood
>
> D K wrote:
>
> >Hey now ... I REALLY saw a first on tonight's rebroadcast of Sunday's PBA
> >finals. I cannot believe no comment here on WRWjr's pick of the big 4
> >Sunday. I have only never seen it done before on, TV or in person. I
> >have it on tape and hadn't watch the show yet but was flipping around the
> >dial and got lucky.
> >
> >Tony R Smith wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I can't say that I have been bowling for 40 years... since I am 40 years
> >>old, but I have been bowling since 1976 and have carried a 200+ average
> >>since 1995, and have 3 perfect games to my credit... and my nose is just
> >>fine, thank you!
> >>
> >>Swabbie wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>been bowling for 40 years..me thinks you need to get your nose checked
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >--
> >For you to be successful, sacrifices must be made.
> > It's better that they are made by others but failing
> > that, you'll have to make them yourself.
> > -Rita Mae Brown-
> >
> >
> >
> >

--
For you to be successful, sacrifices must be made.
It's better that they are made by others but failing
that, you'll have to make them yourself.
-Rita Mae Brown-




       
Date: 10 Feb 2005 02:00:42
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
I have picked that one up... and my Dad was there to witness it! It was
in 1990 and I was bowling with my Dad on a 5 man mixed league at New
Frontier Lanes (which no longer exists) in Tacoma, WA. On that one night
I earned my first 700 series patch, my first 150 over series patch, a
279 11-in-a-row plaque, and a Big Four patch (which I never received...
the secretary didn't know it was an award so he didn't turn in the
paperwork). I have also picked up the Greek Church both ways... but have
never converted the 7-10 and I doubt I ever will.

D K wrote:
> Hey now ... I REALLY saw a first on tonight's rebroadcast of Sunday's PBA
> finals. I cannot believe no comment here on WRWjr's pick of the big 4
> Sunday. I have only never seen it done before on, TV or in person. I
> have it on tape and hadn't watch the show yet but was flipping around the
> dial and got lucky.
>
> Tony R Smith wrote:
>
>
>>I can't say that I have been bowling for 40 years... since I am 40 years
>>old, but I have been bowling since 1976 and have carried a 200+ average
>>since 1995, and have 3 perfect games to my credit... and my nose is just
>>fine, thank you!
>>
>>Swabbie wrote:
>>
>>
>>>been bowling for 40 years..me thinks you need to get your nose checked
>>>
>
>
> --
> For you to be successful, sacrifices must be made.
> It's better that they are made by others but failing
> that, you'll have to make them yourself.
> -Rita Mae Brown-
>
>


        
Date: 10 Feb 2005 01:59:20
From: Jeff Rife
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
Tony R Smith (tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com) wrote in alt.sport.bowling:
> I have also picked up the Greek Church both ways... but have
> never converted the 7-10 and I doubt I ever will.

If you don't leave the 7-10 a lot, you probably won't pick it up, but I've
never picked up the Greek Church or the big-4, but have gotten a 7-10 (in
a no-tap tournament). I've picked up the 8-10 three times (all in
sanctioned leagues) using the same "slam the 10 into the wall" technique
that worked for the 7-10.

So, you probably have a shot at the 7-10, if you leave it enough to get
lucky.

--
Jeff Rife


        
Date: 10 Feb 2005 00:56:29
From: Deeve
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
Same thing happened to me. I spared the big 4 sanctioned. Never got squat
for it. I took out the 6-10 and slid the 6 into the 7. The 7 was almost
upright and it kinda slid into the channel, the top of the pin bounced off
the sidewall and the into the 4. the 6 pin moved pretty slowly across the
deck cause I barely caught any of it. It just tapped the 7 very lightly. I
think one other person saw it.

On the original subject, I personally cannot recall ever seeing anyone leave
the 1-7-10. 5-7-10 yes.

One time in league I left up the 5-7-10. I was so mad cause it was a pretty
good shot. I just grabbed my ball, swung it as high as I could on my
backswing and cranked it down the lane. I wasnt even aiming at anything.
From what I was told afterwards, I caught the left side of the 10 and
bounced it off the sidewall and it rolled across and took out the 7. I had
turned around before it hit the pin. When everyone was yelling and pointing
I turned around to see just the 5 left up.




"Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com > wrote in message
news:efzOd.11605$e11.9903@twister.socal.rr.com...
> I have picked that one up... and my Dad was there to witness it! It was
> in 1990 and I was bowling with my Dad on a 5 man mixed league at New
> Frontier Lanes (which no longer exists) in Tacoma, WA. On that one night
> I earned my first 700 series patch, my first 150 over series patch, a
> 279 11-in-a-row plaque, and a Big Four patch (which I never received...
> the secretary didn't know it was an award so he didn't turn in the
> paperwork). I have also picked up the Greek Church both ways... but have
> never converted the 7-10 and I doubt I ever will.




         
Date: 10 Feb 2005 06:00:12
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
Even though I missed Walter Ray's conversion, from what my Brother told
me it was exactly the way I converted it... 6 pin into the left pit
corner and it bounced out just enough to knock the 7 into the 4.

Deeve wrote:

> Same thing happened to me. I spared the big 4 sanctioned. Never got squat
> for it. I took out the 6-10 and slid the 6 into the 7. The 7 was almost
> upright and it kinda slid into the channel, the top of the pin bounced off
> the sidewall and the into the 4. the 6 pin moved pretty slowly across the
> deck cause I barely caught any of it. It just tapped the 7 very lightly. I
> think one other person saw it.
>
> On the original subject, I personally cannot recall ever seeing anyone leave
> the 1-7-10. 5-7-10 yes.
>
> One time in league I left up the 5-7-10. I was so mad cause it was a pretty
> good shot. I just grabbed my ball, swung it as high as I could on my
> backswing and cranked it down the lane. I wasnt even aiming at anything.
> From what I was told afterwards, I caught the left side of the 10 and
> bounced it off the sidewall and it rolled across and took out the 7. I had
> turned around before it hit the pin. When everyone was yelling and pointing
> I turned around to see just the 5 left up.
>
>
>
>
> "Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:efzOd.11605$e11.9903@twister.socal.rr.com...
>
>>I have picked that one up... and my Dad was there to witness it! It was
>>in 1990 and I was bowling with my Dad on a 5 man mixed league at New
>>Frontier Lanes (which no longer exists) in Tacoma, WA. On that one night
>>I earned my first 700 series patch, my first 150 over series patch, a
>>279 11-in-a-row plaque, and a Big Four patch (which I never received...
>>the secretary didn't know it was an award so he didn't turn in the
>>paperwork). I have also picked up the Greek Church both ways... but have
>>never converted the 7-10 and I doubt I ever will.
>
>
>


     
Date: 09 Feb 2005 01:27:28
From: Darby
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
I've never left it either, I've been bowling 28+ years. Let's see how many
in this group have left it.
Dar

"Swabbie" <swab@yahoo.com > wrote
> been bowling for 40 years..me thinks you need to get your nose checked
>
> --
>
> "Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com> wrote
>> You have picked it up "many" times?!?! I have never left it! Me thinks me
>> smells a troll!
>>
>> Swabbie wrote:
>>
>>> my thoughts exactly. I've picked up the 1-7-10 many times, its actually
>>> not what I would consider a very hard pickup.
>>> But,everytime I have ever left it, I have always thought ,"how in the
>>> hell is it even possible to leave that?"
>>>
>




      
Date: 12 Feb 2005 12:42:21
From: eastwood
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
I cannot personally recall ever seeing anyone leave the 1-7-10 and I know if
I left I would get quite the laugh from many others.

"Darby" <darlene@caves.net > wrote in message
news:110jeqttcrte7da@corp.supernews.com...
> I've never left it either, I've been bowling 28+ years. Let's see how many
> in this group have left it.
> Dar
>
> "Swabbie" <swab@yahoo.com> wrote
>> been bowling for 40 years..me thinks you need to get your nose checked
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com> wrote
>>> You have picked it up "many" times?!?! I have never left it! Me thinks
>>> me smells a troll!
>>>
>>> Swabbie wrote:
>>>
>>>> my thoughts exactly. I've picked up the 1-7-10 many times, its actually
>>>> not what I would consider a very hard pickup.
>>>> But,everytime I have ever left it, I have always thought ,"how in the
>>>> hell is it even possible to leave that?"
>>>>
>>
>
>




      
Date: 09 Feb 2005 15:27:19
From: Jeff Rife
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
Darby (darlene@caves.net) wrote in alt.sport.bowling:
> I've never left it either, I've been bowling 28+ years. Let's see how many
> in this group have left it.

I've never left it, and can't imagine ever leaving it. If I miss the head
pin on the first, either the 7 or the 10 always goes away (depending on
if it is a right or left side miss).

--
Jeff Rife


      
Date: 09 Feb 2005 12:30:50
From: the valleys
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!

"Darby" <darlene@caves.net > wrote in message
news:110jeqttcrte7da@corp.supernews.com...
> I've never left it either, I've been bowling 28+ years. Let's see how many
> in this group have left it.
> Dar
>
> "Swabbie" <swab@yahoo.com> wrote
>> been bowling for 40 years..me thinks you need to get your nose checked
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com> wrote
>>> You have picked it up "many" times?!?! I have never left it! Me thinks
>>> me smells a troll!
>>>
>>> Swabbie wrote:
>>>
>>>> my thoughts exactly. I've picked up the 1-7-10 many times, its actually
>>>> not what I would consider a very hard pickup.
>>>> But,everytime I have ever left it, I have always thought ,"how in the
>>>> hell is it even possible to leave that?"
I didn't leave it last night... but one of my teammates did and so did a
member of the other team. different lanes. I've left it a couple times at
least..
I don't think I've ever picked it up.
I am relatively new to bowling(3 years) and don't have a great shot yet.
so I leave some pretty weird stuff.

I'm going to take my winnings from the league this year and take lessons
from one of the local coaches and just sub for the summer. I'm at the point
now where I'm good enough to know that I'm not that good and need some help
to get better.




      
Date: 09 Feb 2005 22:02:47
From: Rob & Kirsty Buckley
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
Darby wrote:
>
> I've never left it either, I've been bowling 28+ years. Let's see how many
> in this group have left it.
> Dar

Seen it maybe half a dozen times in 30 years, never left it. I have left
the 1-4-10 a couple times though - go figure.

Rob.


> "Swabbie" <swab@yahoo.com> wrote
> > been bowling for 40 years..me thinks you need to get your nose checked
> >
> > --
> >
> > "Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com> wrote
> >> You have picked it up "many" times?!?! I have never left it! Me thinks me
> >> smells a troll!
> >>
> >> Swabbie wrote:
> >>
> >>> my thoughts exactly. I've picked up the 1-7-10 many times, its actually
> >>> not what I would consider a very hard pickup.
> >>> But,everytime I have ever left it, I have always thought ,"how in the
> >>> hell is it even possible to leave that?"
> >>>
> >


       
Date: 09 Feb 2005 10:47:23
From: Mark D
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
I saw it just this past Sunday by one of MY teammates.
Unfortunately she only picked up one of the pins. :-(
It's been left for sure two other times I've seen this season
in my Sunday night league!

Mark D.


"Rob & Kirsty Buckley" <the_buckleys@optusnet.com.au > wrote in message
news:4209FBE7.52E1@optusnet.com.au...
> Darby wrote:
>>
>> I've never left it either, I've been bowling 28+ years. Let's see how
>> many
>> in this group have left it.
>> Dar
>
> Seen it maybe half a dozen times in 30 years, never left it. I have left
> the 1-4-10 a couple times though - go figure.
>
> Rob.
>
>
>> "Swabbie" <swab@yahoo.com> wrote
>> > been bowling for 40 years..me thinks you need to get your nose checked
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > "Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com> wrote
>> >> You have picked it up "many" times?!?! I have never left it! Me thinks
>> >> me
>> >> smells a troll!
>> >>
>> >> Swabbie wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> my thoughts exactly. I've picked up the 1-7-10 many times, its
>> >>> actually
>> >>> not what I would consider a very hard pickup.
>> >>> But,everytime I have ever left it, I have always thought ,"how in the
>> >>> hell is it even possible to leave that?"
>> >>>
>> >




 
Date: 07 Feb 2005 08:31:02
From: mhood
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
Tony R Smith wrote:

> A friend and teammate of mine (Mrs. Cookies to some people here) left
> the 1-7-10 tonight. The remarkable part was that I told here to just
> throw a strike shot and try to get two... she pulled it Brooklyn and
> picked it up... by far the strangest thing I've ever seen!

How about WRJ's Big Four yesterday?

mhood


  
Date: 08 Feb 2005 02:38:16
From: NimBill
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
>From: mhood mhood@adently.com

>Tony R Smith wrote:
>
>> A friend and teammate of mine (Mrs. Cookies to some people here) left
>> the 1-7-10 tonight. The remarkable part was that I told here to just
>> throw a strike shot and try to get two... she pulled it Brooklyn and
>> picked it up... by far the strangest thing I've ever seen!
>
>How about WRJ's Big Four yesterday?
>
>mhood

Wasn't the 1-7-10 one of the trick shots in the middle of the tournament either
this week or last?

First time I ever saw it converted was back in the 70's by a girl with about a
110 average using a light ball.










   
Date: 08 Feb 2005 06:12:32
From: Stephan Lemonjello Jr.
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
>>> A friend and teammate of mine (Mrs. Cookies to some people here) left
>>> the 1-7-10 tonight. The remarkable part was that I told here to just
>>> throw a strike shot and try to get two... she pulled it Brooklyn and
>>> picked it up... by far the strangest thing I've ever seen!

Why would you tell her to throw a strike shot??? By throwing a Brooklyn-like
shot, it's easier to get 2 pins, and much easier to make it (as you found out).




    
Date: 09 Feb 2005 02:21:36
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
Because at her skill level she is "much" more likely to get two throwing
at the pocket side... Telling her to throw Brooklyn might as well have
been asking her to miss them all. Having the ball strike the head pin
and deflect to the 7 pin is not even remotely easy unless you throw a
ton of hook... and she doesn't.

Stephan Lemonjello Jr. wrote:
>>>>A friend and teammate of mine (Mrs. Cookies to some people here) left
>>>>the 1-7-10 tonight. The remarkable part was that I told here to just
>>>>throw a strike shot and try to get two... she pulled it Brooklyn and
>>>>picked it up... by far the strangest thing I've ever seen!
>
>
> Why would you tell her to throw a strike shot??? By throwing a Brooklyn-like
> shot, it's easier to get 2 pins, and much easier to make it (as you found out).
>
>


     
Date: 09 Feb 2005 06:24:09
From: Stephan Lemonjello Jr.
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
>Because at her skill level she is "much" more likely to get two throwing
>at the pocket side... Telling her to throw Brooklyn might as well have
>been asking her to miss them all. Having the ball strike the head pin
>and deflect to the 7 pin is not even remotely easy unless you throw a
>ton of hook... and she doesn't.

I think you're forgetting that the head pin could also take out the 10-pin when
throwing a Brooklyn shot. So, you have two different ways to make 2 pins by
throwing a Brooklyn shot, plus you give yourself a chance to make it. It's very
unlikely to be made if you throw a strike shot.

And, I find it very hard to believe that she is "much" more likely to hit the
right side of the head pin (when aiming there) than the left side of the head
pin (when aiming there), which is essentially what you're saying.


      
Date: 09 Feb 2005 12:07:46
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
That is exactly what I am saying... she has a tendency of pulling the
ball across her body because she drops the ball at her feet. I have seen
her do it more than once... way more than once. See, the problem here is
"one" of us actually knows how she bowls... I'll let you figure out the
rest.

Stephan Lemonjello Jr. wrote:
>>Because at her skill level she is "much" more likely to get two throwing
>>at the pocket side... Telling her to throw Brooklyn might as well have
>>been asking her to miss them all. Having the ball strike the head pin
>>and deflect to the 7 pin is not even remotely easy unless you throw a
>>ton of hook... and she doesn't.
>
>
> I think you're forgetting that the head pin could also take out the 10-pin when
> throwing a Brooklyn shot. So, you have two different ways to make 2 pins by
> throwing a Brooklyn shot, plus you give yourself a chance to make it. It's very
> unlikely to be made if you throw a strike shot.
>
> And, I find it very hard to believe that she is "much" more likely to hit the
> right side of the head pin (when aiming there) than the left side of the head
> pin (when aiming there), which is essentially what you're saying.


       
Date: 10 Feb 2005 11:22:34
From: Stephan Lemonjello Jr.
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
Tony R Smith wrote:
> That is exactly what I am saying... she has a tendency of pulling the
> ball across her body because she drops the ball at her feet. I have seen
> her do it more than once... way more than once. See, the problem here is
> "one" of us actually knows how she bowls... I'll let you figure out the
> rest.

So, what happens if she leaves a 2-pin? Do you instruct her to just
press the reset button and take a zero?


        
Date: 11 Feb 2005 02:27:32
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
No, I tell her to aim at the head pin and hope for the best. I am trying
to break her of not reaching out and not following through with her
delivery... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This is why SHE is
a 140 average bowler.

Stephan Lemonjello Jr. wrote:
> Tony R Smith wrote:
>
>> That is exactly what I am saying... she has a tendency of pulling the
>> ball across her body because she drops the ball at her feet. I have
>> seen her do it more than once... way more than once. See, the problem
>> here is "one" of us actually knows how she bowls... I'll let you
>> figure out the rest.
>
>
> So, what happens if she leaves a 2-pin? Do you instruct her to just
> press the reset button and take a zero?


         
Date: 12 Feb 2005 14:28:37
From: Chris ( STIMPY )
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:27:32 GMT, Tony R Smith
<tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com > wrote:

>No, I tell her to aim at the head pin and hope for the best. I am trying
>to break her of not reaching out and not following through with her
>delivery... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This is why SHE is
>a 140 average bowler.
>
>Stephan Lemonjello Jr. wrote:
>> Tony R Smith wrote:
>>
>>> That is exactly what I am saying... she has a tendency of pulling the
>>> ball across her body because she drops the ball at her feet. I have
>>> seen her do it more than once... way more than once. See, the problem
>>> here is "one" of us actually knows how she bowls... I'll let you
>>> figure out the rest.
>>
>>
>> So, what happens if she leaves a 2-pin? Do you instruct her to just
>> press the reset button and take a zero?

Well I can honestly say that I have never had the 1,7,10 split but I
had something last night that I have never seen!

Solid pocket shot - just completely ripped the rack and what is
staring at me??? A 7,9 split ! I just stood there shaking my head
in disbelief.......and no I didn't pick it up either! : )

I think the main issue at this house lately is that they put new
synthetic pins in for the State Tournament and ever since then you
have the weirdest crap staring at you that you've never seen!

I've had several people also say the same to me since the arrival of
these lovely pins! Gotta love synethic!! : )



         
Date: 10 Feb 2005 21:58:39
From: Darby
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!

"Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com > wrote
> No, I tell her to aim at the head pin and hope for the best. I am trying
> to break her of not reaching out and not following through with her
> delivery... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This is why SHE is a
> 140 average bowler.

Something what works for my YABA'ers is to move their sight back a foot from
their target and try to throw the ball over that spot and up the line to
their target. That helps sometimes with accuracy and follow through.
Dar

>
> Stephan Lemonjello Jr. wrote:
>> Tony R Smith wrote:
>>
>>> That is exactly what I am saying... she has a tendency of pulling the
>>> ball across her body because she drops the ball at her feet. I have seen
>>> her do it more than once... way more than once. See, the problem here is
>>> "one" of us actually knows how she bowls... I'll let you figure out the
>>> rest.
>>
>>
>> So, what happens if she leaves a 2-pin? Do you instruct her to just press
>> the reset button and take a zero?




    
Date: 08 Feb 2005 00:35:16
From: Darby
Subject: Re: I saw a first tonight!

"Stephan Lemonjello Jr." <newsgrouper@aol.comNOSPAM > wrote
>>>> A friend and teammate of mine (Mrs. Cookies to some people here) left
>>>> the 1-7-10 tonight. The remarkable part was that I told here to just
>>>> throw a strike shot and try to get two... she pulled it Brooklyn and
>>>> picked it up... by far the strangest thing I've ever seen!
>
> Why would you tell her to throw a strike shot??? By throwing a
> Brooklyn-like
> shot, it's easier to get 2 pins, and much easier to make it (as you found
> out).

It seems to me that the leave is very similar to the "Pro
Washout"......1-2-6-10. I see them throw a straight ball from the left
corner to the right of the head pin and on into the 6-10. I think that's how
I would try to pick up the 1-7-10 also.
Dar