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Date: 10 Feb 2005 09:58:13
From: Don't Miss Spares
Subject: How to build a custom Thumb?
I have an arsenal with 8 balls.
My big problem is that all have a different thumb drilled...so u know
...different release, feeling, ect.
Do you know some trick to help me to build a similar thumb?
Regards
Alexander




 
Date: 18 Feb 2005 06:22:04
From: Mark
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Ruth's Chris is always good. Macaroni Grill is generally decent and
will be a bit less costly (but someone said steaks).

Tony - I'll send you my cell # via the TI reflector. Jan and I should
be in well before dinner and we'd like to hook up with y'all for
dinner.

Mark



  
Date: 21 Feb 2005 20:29:11
From: bowldoug
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
tony, how about you handling the general spec for this and we can
communicate separately via cell and e-mail.
again gang chek that other thread to keep things on topic

--
Douglas Moye
Director Greater Detroit Bowling Association
member of consitution and by-laws committee,
and hearings and rerating committee
secretary Drakeshire Merchant Men,
developing fossil\general pest
"Mark" <twobowlers@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1108736524.383877.183180@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Ruth's Chris is always good. Macaroni Grill is generally decent and
> will be a bit less costly (but someone said steaks).
>
> Tony - I'll send you my cell # via the TI reflector. Jan and I should
> be in well before dinner and we'd like to hook up with y'all for
> dinner.
>
> Mark
>
>




   
Date: 23 Feb 2005 05:25:39
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
OK, I have done some research on restaurants in Baton Rouge. My brother
for one doesn't want to pay $50 for a meal. What does the group thing
about Cajun food? This one is highly rated and reasonably priced. Input
would be appreciated! :-)

http://www.boutins.com

bowldoug wrote:

>tony, how about you handling the general spec for this and we can
>communicate separately via cell and e-mail.
>again gang chek that other thread to keep things on topic
>
>
>


    
Date: 23 Feb 2005 01:54:57
From: Jeff Rife
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Tony R Smith (tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com) wrote in alt.sport.bowling:
> What does the group thing
> about Cajun food?
>
> http://www.boutins.com

I am officially "easy" when it comes to food. But, spicy is one of my
favorites.

--
Jeff Rife


     
Date: 23 Feb 2005 15:57:00
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
The cool thing about Boutin's is that they can do banquets, their food
prices are in the mid teens, and they have entertainment at 7:00 every
night of the week. They come highly rated by actual people who have
dined there... and for those of us that aren't from Cajun country it
will be something new (speaking for myself). I am always open to
options, but the price range of the meals at Boutin's is the most that
my Brother wants to pay for a meal... in other words, Ruth's Chris and
Sullivan's are just to expensive for him. I have to admit, as much as
I'd really like to try both of those restaurants, the prices are too
steep for a group gathering like this. The only concern that I had is
that we might have people who don't like, or don't want to try, Cajun
food. That is why I am looking for input.

Jeff Rife wrote:

>Tony R Smith (tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com) wrote in alt.sport.bowling:
>
>
>> What does the group thing
>>about Cajun food?
>>
>>http://www.boutins.com
>>
>>
>
>I am officially "easy" when it comes to food. But, spicy is one of my
>favorites.
>
>
>


      
Date: 23 Feb 2005 13:17:16
From: Jeff Rife
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Tony R Smith (tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com) wrote in alt.sport.bowling:
> The only concern that I had is
> that we might have people who don't like, or don't want to try, Cajun
> food.

They've got a lot of seafood that is "Cajun" but not "firey Cajun", and I
think the ribeye is close to what you would get anywhere else...maybe a
little different seasonings. And, if you want mild but different,
the alligator "McNuggets" would be something to try.

I'm all for this place. It's about 6.5mi from Doug's hotel.

I suggest that wherever we go, Doug should make reservations based on the
count from here, because he will be there before most of the rest of us.

--
Jeff Rife


       
Date: 23 Feb 2005 19:31:44
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
They have online reservations if we can all agree on the place and get a
head count.

Jeff Rife wrote:

>Tony R Smith (tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com) wrote in alt.sport.bowling:
>
>
>> The only concern that I had is
>>that we might have people who don't like, or don't want to try, Cajun
>>food.
>>
>>
>
>They've got a lot of seafood that is "Cajun" but not "firey Cajun", and I
>think the ribeye is close to what you would get anywhere else...maybe a
>little different seasonings. And, if you want mild but different,
>the alligator "McNuggets" would be something to try.
>
>I'm all for this place. It's about 6.5mi from Doug's hotel.
>
>I suggest that wherever we go, Doug should make reservations based on the
>count from here, because he will be there before most of the rest of us.
>
>
>


        
Date: 23 Feb 2005 22:25:10
From: D K
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Looks fine to me, though I do not know if I can get enough practice speakin'
cajun to order by then [grin]

Tony R Smith wrote:

> They have online reservations if we can all agree on the place and get a
> head count.
>
> Jeff Rife wrote:
>
> >Tony R Smith (tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com) wrote in alt.sport.bowling:
> >
> >
> >> The only concern that I had is
> >>that we might have people who don't like, or don't want to try, Cajun
> >>food.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >They've got a lot of seafood that is "Cajun" but not "firey Cajun", and I
> >think the ribeye is close to what you would get anywhere else...maybe a
> >little different seasonings. And, if you want mild but different,
> >the alligator "McNuggets" would be something to try.
> >
> >I'm all for this place. It's about 6.5mi from Doug's hotel.
> >
> >I suggest that wherever we go, Doug should make reservations based on the
> >count from here, because he will be there before most of the rest of us.
> >
> >
> >

--
Solitaire; like any card game
requires a good hand - Buzz Burbank




  
Date: 19 Feb 2005 01:37:14
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Actually, I checked out Ruth's Chris's website... looks really good to
me! Do you have any idea of the price range for there entries? As long
as it isn't too steep, I think it gets my vote... anyone else?

http://www.ruthschris.com

Mark wrote:
> Ruth's Chris is always good. Macaroni Grill is generally decent and
> will be a bit less costly (but someone said steaks).
>
> Tony - I'll send you my cell # via the TI reflector. Jan and I should
> be in well before dinner and we'd like to hook up with y'all for
> dinner.
>
> Mark
>


   
Date: 19 Feb 2005 13:05:17
From: John O
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
> Actually, I checked out Ruth's Chris's website... looks really good to me!
> Do you have any idea of the price range for there entries? As long as it
> isn't too steep


A NY strip will set you back at least $30. Sides are extra...potato $6,
veggies $5, etc. You're looking at $50 per plate, or more, plus drinks. But
that steak will be one of the best you've ever eaten.

-John O




   
Date: 19 Feb 2005 01:43:57
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Yes, i know that the "there" is supposed to be "their"... damned spell
checker anyways! ;-)

Tony R Smith wrote:

> Actually, I checked out Ruth's Chris's website... looks really good to
> me! Do you have any idea of the price range for there entries? As long
> as it isn't too steep, I think it gets my vote... anyone else?
>
> http://www.ruthschris.com
>
> Mark wrote:
>
>> Ruth's Chris is always good. Macaroni Grill is generally decent and
>> will be a bit less costly (but someone said steaks).
>>
>> Tony - I'll send you my cell # via the TI reflector. Jan and I should
>> be in well before dinner and we'd like to hook up with y'all for
>> dinner.
>>
>> Mark
>>


    
Date: 20 Feb 2005 15:47:50
From: D K
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
But did you know "entries" should've been entrees? hehe

Any of the suggested restaurants will be fine with me. I just found out that
Laurie will not be traveling with me, so I will be stag and probably have to
eat her airfare. Pass the A-1, Doug. m-m-m-m tasty!

Tony R Smith wrote:

> Yes, i know that the "there" is supposed to be "their"... damned spell
> checker anyways! ;-)
>
> Tony R Smith wrote:
>
> > Actually, I checked out Ruth's Chris's website... looks really good to
> > me! Do you have any idea of the price range for there entries? As long
> > as it isn't too steep, I think it gets my vote... anyone else?
> >
> > http://www.ruthschris.com
> >
> > Mark wrote:
> >
> >> Ruth's Chris is always good. Macaroni Grill is generally decent and
> >> will be a bit less costly (but someone said steaks).
> >>
> >> Tony - I'll send you my cell # via the TI reflector. Jan and I should
> >> be in well before dinner and we'd like to hook up with y'all for
> >> dinner.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>

--
"People don't refuse money. It's what
separates us from the animals." -Sienfeld




     
Date: 20 Feb 2005 15:54:36
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
I guess I was in rare form, huh?!?! When are those damned "smart" spell
checkers coming out anyways? ;-)

D K wrote:
> But did you know "entries" should've been entrees? hehe
>
> Any of the suggested restaurants will be fine with me. I just found out that
> Laurie will not be traveling with me, so I will be stag and probably have to
> eat her airfare. Pass the A-1, Doug. m-m-m-m tasty!
>
> Tony R Smith wrote:
>
>
>>Yes, i know that the "there" is supposed to be "their"... damned spell
>>checker anyways! ;-)
>>
>>Tony R Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Actually, I checked out Ruth's Chris's website... looks really good to
>>>me! Do you have any idea of the price range for there entries? As long
>>>as it isn't too steep, I think it gets my vote... anyone else?
>>>
>>>http://www.ruthschris.com
>>>
>>>Mark wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ruth's Chris is always good. Macaroni Grill is generally decent and
>>>>will be a bit less costly (but someone said steaks).
>>>>
>>>>Tony - I'll send you my cell # via the TI reflector. Jan and I should
>>>>be in well before dinner and we'd like to hook up with y'all for
>>>>dinner.
>>>>
>>>>Mark
>>>>
>
>
> --
> "People don't refuse money. It's what
> separates us from the animals." -Sienfeld
>
>


    
Date: 19 Feb 2005 16:51:19
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Having checked out Sullivan's Steakhouse's website and the price and
ratings for both Sullivan's and Ruth's Chris (which rated the same), I'd
have to vote for the Sullivan's based on price.

http://www.sullivansteakhouse.com/batonrouge/

Tony R Smith wrote:
> Yes, i know that the "there" is supposed to be "their"... damned spell
> checker anyways! ;-)
>
> Tony R Smith wrote:
>
>> Actually, I checked out Ruth's Chris's website... looks really good to
>> me! Do you have any idea of the price range for there entries? As long
>> as it isn't too steep, I think it gets my vote... anyone else?
>>
>> http://www.ruthschris.com
>>
>> Mark wrote:
>>
>>> Ruth's Chris is always good. Macaroni Grill is generally decent and
>>> will be a bit less costly (but someone said steaks).
>>>
>>> Tony - I'll send you my cell # via the TI reflector. Jan and I should
>>> be in well before dinner and we'd like to hook up with y'all for
>>> dinner.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>


     
Date: 20 Feb 2005 15:55:48
From: D K
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
How about he filet on the opening page to the Ruth's Chris site? Between the
photo and the audio, I could almost taste it.

Tony R Smith wrote:

> Having checked out Sullivan's Steakhouse's website and the price and
> ratings for both Sullivan's and Ruth's Chris (which rated the same), I'd
> have to vote for the Sullivan's based on price.
>
> http://www.sullivansteakhouse.com/batonrouge/
>
> Tony R Smith wrote:
> > Yes, i know that the "there" is supposed to be "their"... damned spell
> > checker anyways! ;-)
> >
> > Tony R Smith wrote:
> >
> >> Actually, I checked out Ruth's Chris's website... looks really good to
> >> me! Do you have any idea of the price range for there entries? As long
> >> as it isn't too steep, I think it gets my vote... anyone else?
> >>
> >> http://www.ruthschris.com
> >>
> >> Mark wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ruth's Chris is always good. Macaroni Grill is generally decent and
> >>> will be a bit less costly (but someone said steaks).
> >>>
> >>> Tony - I'll send you my cell # via the TI reflector. Jan and I should
> >>> be in well before dinner and we'd like to hook up with y'all for
> >>> dinner.
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>

--
"People don't refuse money. It's what
separates us from the animals." -Sienfeld




      
Date: 20 Feb 2005 16:34:01
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
No doubt! My only concern is that Gayot.com consistently lists Ruth's
Chris as a 75+ a person restaurant, where as most of the locations for
Sullivan's are listed as 50+. Both restaurants are award winning and
both get a rating of 13/20 from Gayot at most locations (the highest you
will find for a steakhouse... even Doan's, which is considered top 10
in the Nation, received a 13/20). Baton Rouge isn't specifically listed
in Gayot, and most other sites I searched, so you have to look at their
other locations. I'm just concerned that we have many people with a
variety of income levels and don't want to put someone in a bind over
the cost of a meal.

D K wrote:
> How about he filet on the opening page to the Ruth's Chris site? Between the
> photo and the audio, I could almost taste it.
>
> Tony R Smith wrote:
>
>
>>Having checked out Sullivan's Steakhouse's website and the price and
>>ratings for both Sullivan's and Ruth's Chris (which rated the same), I'd
>>have to vote for the Sullivan's based on price.
>>
>>http://www.sullivansteakhouse.com/batonrouge/
>>
>>Tony R Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, i know that the "there" is supposed to be "their"... damned spell
>>>checker anyways! ;-)
>>>
>>>Tony R Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Actually, I checked out Ruth's Chris's website... looks really good to
>>>>me! Do you have any idea of the price range for there entries? As long
>>>>as it isn't too steep, I think it gets my vote... anyone else?
>>>>
>>>>http://www.ruthschris.com
>>>>
>>>>Mark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ruth's Chris is always good. Macaroni Grill is generally decent and
>>>>>will be a bit less costly (but someone said steaks).
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony - I'll send you my cell # via the TI reflector. Jan and I should
>>>>>be in well before dinner and we'd like to hook up with y'all for
>>>>>dinner.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mark
>>>>>
>
>
> --
> "People don't refuse money. It's what
> separates us from the animals." -Sienfeld
>
>


       
Date: 20 Feb 2005 11:56:41
From: Jamie
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
you could always buy the meal for everybody :) If you are going to do that
let me know I'll change my plans to make sure Im there LOL

Jamie
"Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com > wrote in message
news:ZZ2Sd.20875$Tj7.11706@twister.socal.rr.com...
> No doubt! My only concern is that Gayot.com consistently lists Ruth's
> Chris as a 75+ a person restaurant, where as most of the locations for
> Sullivan's are listed as 50+. Both restaurants are award winning and both
> get a rating of 13/20 from Gayot at most locations (the highest you will
> find for a steakhouse... even Doan's, which is considered top 10 in the
> Nation, received a 13/20). Baton Rouge isn't specifically listed in Gayot,
> and most other sites I searched, so you have to look at their other
> locations. I'm just concerned that we have many people with a variety of
> income levels and don't want to put someone in a bind over the cost of a
> meal.
>
> D K wrote:
>> How about he filet on the opening page to the Ruth's Chris site? Between
>> the
>> photo and the audio, I could almost taste it.
>>
>> Tony R Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Having checked out Sullivan's Steakhouse's website and the price and
>>>ratings for both Sullivan's and Ruth's Chris (which rated the same), I'd
>>>have to vote for the Sullivan's based on price.
>>>
>>>http://www.sullivansteakhouse.com/batonrouge/
>>>
>>>Tony R Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes, i know that the "there" is supposed to be "their"... damned spell
>>>>checker anyways! ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Tony R Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Actually, I checked out Ruth's Chris's website... looks really good to
>>>>>me! Do you have any idea of the price range for there entries? As long
>>>>>as it isn't too steep, I think it gets my vote... anyone else?
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.ruthschris.com
>>>>>
>>>>>Mark wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ruth's Chris is always good. Macaroni Grill is generally decent and
>>>>>>will be a bit less costly (but someone said steaks).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tony - I'll send you my cell # via the TI reflector. Jan and I should
>>>>>>be in well before dinner and we'd like to hook up with y'all for
>>>>>>dinner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mark
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "People don't refuse money. It's what
>> separates us from the animals." -Sienfeld
>>



        
Date: 20 Feb 2005 17:22:29
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Somehow I don't think that will mesh well with the fact that I am in the
process of buying a house... or more correctly, a Townhouse, in the
"land of scary home prices!". Now, Mark "... is it time to move to the
other side of the country yet?" Curran might be able to pull that one
off! ;-)

Jamie wrote:
> you could always buy the meal for everybody :) If you are going to do that
> let me know I'll change my plans to make sure Im there LOL
>
> Jamie
> "Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:ZZ2Sd.20875$Tj7.11706@twister.socal.rr.com...
>
>>No doubt! My only concern is that Gayot.com consistently lists Ruth's
>>Chris as a 75+ a person restaurant, where as most of the locations for
>>Sullivan's are listed as 50+. Both restaurants are award winning and both
>>get a rating of 13/20 from Gayot at most locations (the highest you will
>>find for a steakhouse... even Doan's, which is considered top 10 in the
>>Nation, received a 13/20). Baton Rouge isn't specifically listed in Gayot,
>>and most other sites I searched, so you have to look at their other
>>locations. I'm just concerned that we have many people with a variety of
>>income levels and don't want to put someone in a bind over the cost of a
>>meal.
>>
>>D K wrote:
>>
>>>How about he filet on the opening page to the Ruth's Chris site? Between
>>>the
>>>photo and the audio, I could almost taste it.
>>>
>>>Tony R Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Having checked out Sullivan's Steakhouse's website and the price and
>>>>ratings for both Sullivan's and Ruth's Chris (which rated the same), I'd
>>>>have to vote for the Sullivan's based on price.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.sullivansteakhouse.com/batonrouge/
>>>>
>>>>Tony R Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, i know that the "there" is supposed to be "their"... damned spell
>>>>>checker anyways! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony R Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually, I checked out Ruth's Chris's website... looks really good to
>>>>>>me! Do you have any idea of the price range for there entries? As long
>>>>>>as it isn't too steep, I think it gets my vote... anyone else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.ruthschris.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mark wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ruth's Chris is always good. Macaroni Grill is generally decent and
>>>>>>>will be a bit less costly (but someone said steaks).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tony - I'll send you my cell # via the TI reflector. Jan and I should
>>>>>>>be in well before dinner and we'd like to hook up with y'all for
>>>>>>>dinner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>"People don't refuse money. It's what
>>> separates us from the animals." -Sienfeld
>>>
>
>


         
Date: 20 Feb 2005 13:34:21
From: Jeff Rife
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Tony R Smith (tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com) wrote in alt.sport.bowling:
> Somehow I don't think that will mesh well with the fact that I am in the
> process of buying a house... or more correctly, a Townhouse, in the
> "land of scary home prices!". Now, Mark "... is it time to move to the
> other side of the country yet?" Curran might be able to pull that one
> off! ;-)

How about those of us that bought a house at the bottom of the market (in
1998) and pay 4.5% mortgage? With the increased tax assessment (value of
the house is about doubled), I'm probably going to pay more per year
in taxes than in principle until the last few years of the loan.

--
Jeff Rife


 
Date: 13 Feb 2005 15:39:44
From: Mark
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
> Same here.

Sounds good - I'll check in with Tony and the rest of the TI crowd to
see what is cooking for BR.

Mark



  
Date: 14 Feb 2005 05:55:17
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Why don't we set up dinner somewhere at 7:00 PM on the 18th... We know
that it has to serve steak at a minimum because that is what Doug Moye
likes. My brother and I will be there as long as it is in the evening.

Mark wrote:

>>Same here.
>
>
> Sounds good - I'll check in with Tony and the rest of the TI crowd to
> see what is cooking for BR.
>
> Mark
>


   
Date: 18 Feb 2005 03:09:56
From: Jeff Rife
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Tony R Smith (tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com) wrote in alt.sport.bowling:
> Why don't we set up dinner somewhere at 7:00 PM on the 18th... We know
> that it has to serve steak at a minimum because that is what Doug Moye
> likes. My brother and I will be there as long as it is in the evening.

Doug is about 1/4 mile down the road from my hotel. Here are some
nearby restaurants to his hotel:

0.1 mi - The Melting Pot 225-928-3941
0.2 mi - Sullivan's Steakhouse 225-925-1161
0.2 mi - Fox & Hound English Pub & Grille 225-926-1444
0.2 mi - On the Border 225-924-7400
0.2 mi - Damon's 225-924-7427
0.3 mi - Macaroni Grill 225-927-6637
0.3 mi - Ruby Tuesday 225-922-9988
0.8 mi - Kamado's Japanese Grill & Sushi Bar 225-928-3888
0.9 mi - Ruth's Chris Steak House 225-925-0163

--
Jeff Rife


    
Date: 21 Feb 2005 20:26:47
From: bowldoug
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
looks like the 18th (friday) then. I will just have to miss the delegates
party again, drats :-)

no Tony, I doesn't have to be a steak house, but a variety menu does help
with different peoples different taste.
I will have been there for about a week by then so will have tried some of
those places.
I will report in the other thread and we can go from there.
--
Douglas Moye
Director Greater Detroit Bowling Association
member of consitution and by-laws committee,
and hearings and rerating committee
secretary Drakeshire Merchant Men,
developing fossil\general pest
"Jeff Rife" <wevsr@nabs.net > wrote in message
news:MPG.1c7f6ce3a2bffb10989b95@news.nabs.net...
> Tony R Smith (tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com) wrote in alt.sport.bowling:
> > Why don't we set up dinner somewhere at 7:00 PM on the 18th... We know
> > that it has to serve steak at a minimum because that is what Doug Moye
> > likes. My brother and I will be there as long as it is in the evening.
>
> Doug is about 1/4 mile down the road from my hotel. Here are some
> nearby restaurants to his hotel:
>
> 0.1 mi - The Melting Pot 225-928-3941
> 0.2 mi - Sullivan's Steakhouse 225-925-1161
> 0.2 mi - Fox & Hound English Pub & Grille 225-926-1444
> 0.2 mi - On the Border 225-924-7400
> 0.2 mi - Damon's 225-924-7427
> 0.3 mi - Macaroni Grill 225-927-6637
> 0.3 mi - Ruby Tuesday 225-922-9988
> 0.8 mi - Kamado's Japanese Grill & Sushi Bar 225-928-3888
> 0.9 mi - Ruth's Chris Steak House 225-925-0163
>
> --
> Jeff Rife


 
Date: 12 Feb 2005 10:26:29
From: Mark
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
>except for me wanting to fuss about 1.1

Naaa, not a fuss. I know exactly what you are driving at and it's a
good point. I'd add that it's incumbent on the local bowlers to
support the good shops.

>I found was Contour Power brand thumb inserts, either All White Taper
or Oval.

Interesting. I've tried these and just don't like the way they feel. I
much prefer to mill out the oval from a solid slug. I'm a Turbo 2n1
urethane slug type of guy. I do know several folks that swear by the
Contour inserts and that is a very good, and economical, solution to
matching thumbs.

> Give the operator a chance to match the grip.

I agree with this as well. The operator might have no idea that there
is a problem. A nice conversation and a chance to help the player can
go a long way toward everyone being happy.

OT - I 'll be in BR from the 18th to the 22nd. Hope we get a chance to
hook up.

--Mark



  
Date: 13 Feb 2005 11:49:21
From: Al Whiteman
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?

"Mark" <twobowlers@aol.com > wrote in message >
<snip >

OT - I 'll be in BR from the 18th to the 22nd. Hope we get a chance to
> hook up.
>
> --Mark
>

Same here. Maybe by March 1st, everyone will be able to post their squad
times at BR. I am only going to bowl team event this year so I might avail
myself of one more seminar.
al




 
Date: 10 Feb 2005 14:27:19
From: Mark
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?

Al Whiteman wrote:
> I strenuously disagree with your comments under 1.1.

Well don't hurt yourself :)

> I guarantee I can
> duplicate with a drill press anything "you" can do on a mill-drill.

OK. The point you made about caring is the key component. We've all
seen shops with high end drilling equipment where the operator had no
idea what he/she was doing and we know how that works out. Many shops
don't bother to calibrate thier equipment regularly, let the bits get
dull, etc.

That said, all things being equal it's easier to do a quality job with
quality tools. The guy with the $250 benchtop drillpress with a crappy
X-Y platten might do a great job but it's going to be easier (and in
all likelihood more consistent) if we give him better tools to work
with. Depends on the type of hole we're trying to drill and how
meticulous the operator is.

In context of helping the OP - any other thumb systems you might
suggest or something simple he can do with his current shop to get a
better result?

Mark



  
Date: 11 Feb 2005 08:41:39
From: Al Whiteman
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?

"Mark" <twobowlers@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1108074439.078223.206200@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>

<snip >

> In context of helping the OP - any other thumb systems you might
> suggest or something simple he can do with his current shop to get a
> better result?
>
> Mark
>

Actually, it was a great response you gave (except for me wanting to fuss
about 1.1) The most consistent accessory I found was Contour Power brand
thumb inserts, either All White Taper or Oval. Slugs can be different
texture, much like a plain drilled hole, and drilling requires exact
measurement. (Once in a 100 , the inserts will vary slightly)
OP should take his equipment, all of it, to the shop and explain to the
operator his concerns. A quick span scale, pitch measurement, and an
examination of the amount of bevel should answer the questions. Give the
operator a chance to match the grip.
al




   
Date: 11 Feb 2005 11:56:36
From: Jeff Rife
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Al Whiteman (alsproshop@comcast.net) wrote in alt.sport.bowling:
> Actually, it was a great response you gave (except for me wanting to fuss
> about 1.1) The most consistent accessory I found was Contour Power brand
> thumb inserts, either All White Taper or Oval.

I'll second this. The oval in my size solves my thumb issues, and I get
a "feel" that is pretty much the same from ball to ball. Now, if I could
solve the *bowling* issues, I'd be happy.

--
Jeff Rife


  
Date: 11 Feb 2005 02:42:37
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
I agree with Mark based on my own experiences. I know there are
competent drillers out there, such as yourself (based on opinions form
mutual friends)... but you are the exception, not the rule. I have not
had one ball drilled by someone that "hand honed" the thumbhole that was
worth a damn. In contrast, every ball that I have had drilled by a shop
with a milling machine that actually used it to create the oval holes
(no files or burr motors) has come out perfect! For this reason, I have
gotten all of my recent equipment at ABC Nationals where I know that I
will get my equipment drilled properly on a milling machine.

Mark wrote:

> Al Whiteman wrote:
>
>>I strenuously disagree with your comments under 1.1.
>
>
> Well don't hurt yourself :)
>
>
>>I guarantee I can
>>duplicate with a drill press anything "you" can do on a mill-drill.
>
>
> OK. The point you made about caring is the key component. We've all
> seen shops with high end drilling equipment where the operator had no
> idea what he/she was doing and we know how that works out. Many shops
> don't bother to calibrate thier equipment regularly, let the bits get
> dull, etc.
>
> That said, all things being equal it's easier to do a quality job with
> quality tools. The guy with the $250 benchtop drillpress with a crappy
> X-Y platten might do a great job but it's going to be easier (and in
> all likelihood more consistent) if we give him better tools to work
> with. Depends on the type of hole we're trying to drill and how
> meticulous the operator is.
>
> In context of helping the OP - any other thumb systems you might
> suggest or something simple he can do with his current shop to get a
> better result?
>
> Mark
>


 
Date: 10 Feb 2005 12:32:51
From: klc34668
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
Or use an interchangeable thumb system. Drilling still need to be the
same.



 
Date: 10 Feb 2005 10:36:19
From: Mark
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?

Don't Miss Spares wrote:
> I have an arsenal with 8 balls.
> My big problem is that all have a different thumb drilled...so u know
> ...different release, feeling, ect.
> Do you know some trick to help me to build a similar thumb?

This is a classic problem and you have several options:

1) The simplest thing to do is find a ball driller that can do the same
thing twice. It's really not that hard. Even for thumbs with a lot of
hand work and bevel you can use calipers to get each thumb close enough
that most bowlers cannot tell a difference. Note that this level of
work is far beyond what most "Pro" shops can/will do and you should
expect to pay a premium for this level of service.

1.1) Find a fit that you like which requires very little hand work. The
more you do on the mill the better off you'll be. If your shop has a
drill press instead of a mill find another shop. In my case, I make a
four cut oval and use a very tiny ammount of bevel. Assuming the mill
is calibrated it is very easy to duplicate this work from ball to ball.
Where folks get in trouble is when they hand work each hole a lot which
leads to significant variation ball to ball.

2) There are a few different systems out that allow you to make a mold
of your favorite thumbhole and then replicate many inserts having
exactly the same internal shape. CustomThumb is one brand you can find
on the web, there are others. If you don't have a local shop that can
do this, there are a couple places where you can send your favorite
ball, they'll make the mold and send you back as many thumb inserts as
you like.

3) Turbo 2n1 has a neat system called "Switchgrip". With this system
you can take the thumb insert in and out of any ball equiped with the
receiver end of the system. This is cool in that not only will each
ball feel the same because it *is* the same, but you can also have
different size inserts. For example, a tight one for starting out and
then larger ones if your thumb swells during play. There are some
photos on the Turbo website showing this system installed in a RotoGrip
Rush. I recently visited some buddies at RotoGrip and saw this system
installed. It looks good and I've thought about switching to it myself
as I'm really picky about thumb fit.

--Mark



  
Date: 10 Feb 2005 12:45:21
From: Al Whiteman
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
I strenuously disagree with your comments under 1.1. I guarantee I can
duplicate with a drill press anything "you" can do on a mill-drill. (almost
40 years experience) It is about (1) caring (2) values (3) sharp tools (4)
sharp flat bottom drill bits. Oh, but "you" say the mill is accurate to
.0001 of an inch. Doesn't mean a thing because you cannot put another ball
into the jig within .0001, because the diameter of a bowling ball is not
within .0001 of an inch. The accuracy claim is a great marketing tool. By
the way, I have had both drill presses and mill drills in my shops.

Al

"Mark" <twobowlers@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1108060579.774482.149650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> Don't Miss Spares wrote:
>> I have an arsenal with 8 balls.
>> My big problem is that all have a different thumb drilled...so u know
>> ...different release, feeling, ect.
>> Do you know some trick to help me to build a similar thumb?
>
> This is a classic problem and you have several options:
>
> 1) The simplest thing to do is find a ball driller that can do the same
> thing twice. It's really not that hard. Even for thumbs with a lot of
> hand work and bevel you can use calipers to get each thumb close enough
> that most bowlers cannot tell a difference. Note that this level of
> work is far beyond what most "Pro" shops can/will do and you should
> expect to pay a premium for this level of service.
>
> 1.1) Find a fit that you like which requires very little hand work. The
> more you do on the mill the better off you'll be. If your shop has a
> drill press instead of a mill find another shop. In my case, I make a
> four cut oval and use a very tiny ammount of bevel. Assuming the mill
> is calibrated it is very easy to duplicate this work from ball to ball.
> Where folks get in trouble is when they hand work each hole a lot which
> leads to significant variation ball to ball.
>
> 2) There are a few different systems out that allow you to make a mold
> of your favorite thumbhole and then replicate many inserts having
> exactly the same internal shape. CustomThumb is one brand you can find
> on the web, there are others. If you don't have a local shop that can
> do this, there are a couple places where you can send your favorite
> ball, they'll make the mold and send you back as many thumb inserts as
> you like.
>
> 3) Turbo 2n1 has a neat system called "Switchgrip". With this system
> you can take the thumb insert in and out of any ball equiped with the
> receiver end of the system. This is cool in that not only will each
> ball feel the same because it *is* the same, but you can also have
> different size inserts. For example, a tight one for starting out and
> then larger ones if your thumb swells during play. There are some
> photos on the Turbo website showing this system installed in a RotoGrip
> Rush. I recently visited some buddies at RotoGrip and saw this system
> installed. It looks good and I've thought about switching to it myself
> as I'm really picky about thumb fit.
>
> --Mark
>




  
Date: 10 Feb 2005 18:55:56
From: Ryan Press \(NI\)
Subject: Re: How to build a custom Thumb?
As Mark says, you can get a custom thumb moulding kit, which IMO are great.
I use custom thum slugs myself, as do most people I drill for. Every slug
comes out exactly the same, so every ball can feel the same.

Ryan



"Mark" <twobowlers@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1108060579.774482.149650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> Don't Miss Spares wrote:
> > I have an arsenal with 8 balls.
> > My big problem is that all have a different thumb drilled...so u know
> > ...different release, feeling, ect.
> > Do you know some trick to help me to build a similar thumb?
>
> This is a classic problem and you have several options:
>
> 1) The simplest thing to do is find a ball driller that can do the same
> thing twice. It's really not that hard. Even for thumbs with a lot of
> hand work and bevel you can use calipers to get each thumb close enough
> that most bowlers cannot tell a difference. Note that this level of
> work is far beyond what most "Pro" shops can/will do and you should
> expect to pay a premium for this level of service.
>
> 1.1) Find a fit that you like which requires very little hand work. The
> more you do on the mill the better off you'll be. If your shop has a
> drill press instead of a mill find another shop. In my case, I make a
> four cut oval and use a very tiny ammount of bevel. Assuming the mill
> is calibrated it is very easy to duplicate this work from ball to ball.
> Where folks get in trouble is when they hand work each hole a lot which
> leads to significant variation ball to ball.
>
> 2) There are a few different systems out that allow you to make a mold
> of your favorite thumbhole and then replicate many inserts having
> exactly the same internal shape. CustomThumb is one brand you can find
> on the web, there are others. If you don't have a local shop that can
> do this, there are a couple places where you can send your favorite
> ball, they'll make the mold and send you back as many thumb inserts as
> you like.
>
> 3) Turbo 2n1 has a neat system called "Switchgrip". With this system
> you can take the thumb insert in and out of any ball equiped with the
> receiver end of the system. This is cool in that not only will each
> ball feel the same because it *is* the same, but you can also have
> different size inserts. For example, a tight one for starting out and
> then larger ones if your thumb swells during play. There are some
> photos on the Turbo website showing this system installed in a RotoGrip
> Rush. I recently visited some buddies at RotoGrip and saw this system
> installed. It looks good and I've thought about switching to it myself
> as I'm really picky about thumb fit.
>
> --Mark
>