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Date: 29 Apr 2008 06:44:06
From:
Subject: Grown man throwing a 14# ball?
I've just come back to the sport after a hiatus of nearly 3 decades.
I'm in my early 40s, 6' tall, and about 225 lbs. I've had some back/
neck problems in the past and in the interest of not hurting myself,
I've been throwing a 14# ball. I've found it quite comfortable; I can
bowl three games and NOT have a sore wrist, arm or back the next day
(although my thighs do hurt, but I'm still working on my approach). I
throw in a straightforward, old-fashioned "stroker" style and I prefer
a plastic ball since it rolls nice and straight. (In this way, I'm the
opposite of most of the bowlers I've been seeing on the lanes lately).

I've been using house balls but after being at this about a month,
I've decided that I'm enjoying it enough that I'd like to get my own
ball and maybe even join a league once my average is up to snuff. Is
there any good reason why I *shouldn't* just stick with 14#?




 
Date: 07 May 2008 08:01:28
From:
Subject: Re: Grown man throwing a 14# ball?
Didn't Mark Williams (that's going back a while) used to throw his
slow crank with 14 lb equipment?




On Apr 29, 8:44 am, electronic_d...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I've just come back to the sport after a hiatus of nearly 3 decades.
> I'm in my early 40s, 6' tall, and about 225 lbs. I've had some back/
> neck problems in the past and in the interest of not hurting myself,
> I've been throwing a 14# ball. I've found it quite comfortable; I can
> bowl three games and NOT have a sore wrist, arm or back the next day
> (although my thighs do hurt, but I'm still working on my approach). I
> throw in a straightforward, old-fashioned "stroker" style and I prefer
> a plastic ball since it rolls nice and straight. (In this way, I'm the
> opposite of most of the bowlers I've been seeing on the lanes lately).
>
> I've been using house balls but after being at this about a month,
> I've decided that I'm enjoying it enough that I'd like to get my own
> ball and maybe even join a league once my average is up to snuff. Is
> there any good reason why I *shouldn't* just stick with 14#?



 
Date: 03 May 2008 09:22:12
From:
Subject: Re: Grown man throwing a 14# ball?
On Apr 30, 3:50 pm, "John O" <johnospama...@lottaspamheathkit.com >
wrote:
>
> That ball you picked up is probably closer to 35 years old. :-)

Wow, really?
The serial # is KSU2412, although I can't find any Brunswick date code
reference on the web.


 
Date: 30 Apr 2008 00:00:28
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: Grown man throwing a 14# ball?
> Wow, what a friendly, helpful group! This is most unlike my previous
> Usenet experiences.

Well, we ** DO TRY ** to be a group of frinedly "pinheads". :)

> Oh well... More practice (and a properly-fitting ball) should help.

And some lessons from a certified coach won't hurt... ;)

> The ball I bought is a Brunswick Triple Crown. Do you know anything
> about it? The guy who sold it to me thinks it's about 25 years old--or
> at least that's about how long it's been sitting in his closet. Google
> turns up next to nothing. Besides the fact that it's the correct
> weight, and plastic, I bought it because it looks just like the ball I
> owned in my Bantam/Junior days and it comes with an awesome old-style
> bag :)

Because of its' age, there doesn't appear to be anything on it,
especially at the Brunswick ball web site (www.brunswickbowling.com/
balls). However, since it is a plastic ball, it's perfect for helping
you get "back in the groove, etc." until you believe you're
comfortable getting a reactive ball (FWIW, I recommend the "Power
Groove" as your first rective resin "performance" ball! :) ).

Anyhoo, that's all I have for now. Good luck and, again, please keep
us apprised of your progress.... :)


 
Date: 29 Apr 2008 15:28:14
From:
Subject: Re: Grown man throwing a 14# ball?
Wow, what a friendly, helpful group! This is most unlike my previous
Usenet experiences.

Although I don't have my ball yet, the bowling fever has gripped me
and I couldn't resist going to the local house during my lunch break
today and rolling a couple of practice games with a house ball (14#,
of course). I am *wildly* inconsistent... I can pick up a spare in one
frame, bowl two gutter balls in the next, then strike in the third. Oh
well... More practice (and a properly-fitting ball) should help.

The ball I bought is a Brunswick Triple Crown. Do you know anything
about it? The guy who sold it to me thinks it's about 25 years old--or
at least that's about how long it's been sitting in his closet. Google
turns up next to nothing. Besides the fact that it's the correct
weight, and plastic, I bought it because it looks just like the ball I
owned in my Bantam/Junior days and it comes with an awesome old-style
bag :)



 
Date: 29 Apr 2008 14:43:18
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: Grown man throwing a 14# ball?
On Apr 29, 12:26=A0pm, electronic_d...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 29, 3:08=A0pm, PromptJock <102151.3...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Is there any good reason why I *shouldn't* just stick with 14#?
>
> > No, nein, nyet, non, nicht, uh-uh, nope, etc.
>
> > Is my answer clear enough? ;)
>
> > Be advised that there was an article last year(?) in "Bowling This
> > Month" mentioning that ** MANY PRO BOWLERS ** are using 14# equipment.
>
> > Be aware though: a 14# ball, even one with a "modern" coverstock and a
> > "power weight", will need a little more "finesse" (i.e., targeting
> > accuracy, speed control) to deliver strikes because of its' lower
> > weight compared to 15# or 16#. =A0However, you SHOULD NOT compromise
> > your body's health, etc. and use a ball that's heavier than what your
> > body wants to use.
>
> > Therefore in conclusion: "knock yourself out" and get yourself the
> > best 14# you can afford that properly matches your "bowling style".
> > The Pro Shoperator you visit should be able to recommend a ball after
> > CAREFULLY watching you deliver some "test" shots.
>
> > Does this help? :)
>
> Thanks for your reply. I picked up a very old but undrilled Brunswick
> plastic ball at a bargain price. I'm going to have the local pro shop
> drill it for me and I'll use that to start. If all goes well and I
> want to take it to the next level, I'll look at investing in a more
> modern ball.

You're welcome. A plastic ball is a great way to "get back in the
game" after being absent from it as long as you indicated you were.

> I'm definitely interested in learning good form and accuracy, and an
> old style plastic ball without "trick" weighting seems a good place to
> begin. I'm not interested in emulating those young cranker macho men I
> see working out at the lanes; those guys are gonna have some serious
> aches and pains by the time they get to be my age!

One you get "comfortable" handling that "new" ball, seek out a USBC
Certified "Bronze" or "Silver" coach to help you regain/fine-tune your
form (swing, timing, targeting, etc.). Once you get that down, that
same coach can then work with you in getting some "curve" into your
delivery, which will definitely translate into more "striking power".
DO NOT BE FOOLED THOUGH: a "plastic" ball, delivered correctly CAN
INDEED give a smooth "hook" into the pocket. While that "hook" won't
be as great as from a "modern" (reactive) ball (4-6 boards as opposed
to 10 or more boards), many times it's enough to get you that
"critical strike" when you need it. Plus, because "plastic" balls are
relatively "immune" from oil migration, carrydown, etc. compared to
reactive balls, you may find yourself "spanking" your opponents when
their "hot" balls sudenly "get cold" and they subsequently "don't know
what to do" to get their carry, etc. back... :)

Good luck and please keep us apprised of your progress. :)


 
Date: 29 Apr 2008 16:24:28
From: 6ballman
Subject: Re: Grown man throwing a 14# ball?
When I injured my right elbow at work, I drilled up a 12#er to go at it
lefty...after a brief training period I drilled up a 14 and never went
any heavier than that. The current covers are very powerful. Thrown
correctly, they hit as hard as any heavier ball I ever rolled. Thrown
INCORRECTLY the 12 #er hit like a 12#er. I'd say stick with 14. You may
have to start hooking it more to carry effectively.

electronic_dave@hotmail.com wrote:
> I've just come back to the sport after a hiatus of nearly 3 decades.
> I'm in my early 40s, 6' tall, and about 225 lbs. I've had some back/
> neck problems in the past and in the interest of not hurting myself,
> I've been throwing a 14# ball. I've found it quite comfortable; I can
> bowl three games and NOT have a sore wrist, arm or back the next day
> (although my thighs do hurt, but I'm still working on my approach). I
> throw in a straightforward, old-fashioned "stroker" style and I prefer
> a plastic ball since it rolls nice and straight. (In this way, I'm the
> opposite of most of the bowlers I've been seeing on the lanes lately).
>
> I've been using house balls but after being at this about a month,
> I've decided that I'm enjoying it enough that I'd like to get my own
> ball and maybe even join a league once my average is up to snuff. Is
> there any good reason why I *shouldn't* just stick with 14#?
>
--

"Write your own come back story."
-Jim Calipari Memphis baskeball coach after losing the
NCAA National championship


 
Date: 29 Apr 2008 12:26:20
From:
Subject: Re: Grown man throwing a 14# ball?
On Apr 29, 3:08=A0pm, PromptJock <102151.3...@compuserve.com > wrote:
> > Is there any good reason why I *shouldn't* just stick with 14#?
>
> No, nein, nyet, non, nicht, uh-uh, nope, etc.
>
> Is my answer clear enough? ;)
>
> Be advised that there was an article last year(?) in "Bowling This
> Month" mentioning that ** MANY PRO BOWLERS ** are using 14# equipment.
>
> Be aware though: a 14# ball, even one with a "modern" coverstock and a
> "power weight", will need a little more "finesse" (i.e., targeting
> accuracy, speed control) to deliver strikes because of its' lower
> weight compared to 15# or 16#. =A0However, you SHOULD NOT compromise
> your body's health, etc. and use a ball that's heavier than what your
> body wants to use.
>
> Therefore in conclusion: "knock yourself out" and get yourself the
> best 14# you can afford that properly matches your "bowling style".
> The Pro Shoperator you visit should be able to recommend a ball after
> CAREFULLY watching you deliver some "test" shots.
>
> Does this help? :)

Thanks for your reply. I picked up a very old but undrilled Brunswick
plastic ball at a bargain price. I'm going to have the local pro shop
drill it for me and I'll use that to start. If all goes well and I
want to take it to the next level, I'll look at investing in a more
modern ball.

I'm definitely interested in learning good form and accuracy, and an
old style plastic ball without "trick" weighting seems a good place to
begin. I'm not interested in emulating those young cranker macho men I
see working out at the lanes; those guys are gonna have some serious
aches and pains by the time they get to be my age!


  
Date: 30 Apr 2008 20:50:12
From: John O
Subject: Re: Grown man throwing a 14# ball?

<electronic_dave@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:3cbacbc2-0ce1-419d-9f69-5777ccf1e602@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 29, 3:08 pm, PromptJock <102151.3...@compuserve.com > wrote:
> > Is there any good reason why I *shouldn't* just stick with 14#?
>
> No, nein, nyet, non, nicht, uh-uh, nope, etc.
>
> Is my answer clear enough? ;)
>
> Be advised that there was an article last year(?) in "Bowling This
> Month" mentioning that ** MANY PRO BOWLERS ** are using 14# equipment.
>
> Be aware though: a 14# ball, even one with a "modern" coverstock and a
> "power weight", will need a little more "finesse" (i.e., targeting
> accuracy, speed control) to deliver strikes because of its' lower
> weight compared to 15# or 16#. However, you SHOULD NOT compromise
> your body's health, etc. and use a ball that's heavier than what your
> body wants to use.
>
> Therefore in conclusion: "knock yourself out" and get yourself the
> best 14# you can afford that properly matches your "bowling style".
> The Pro Shoperator you visit should be able to recommend a ball after
> CAREFULLY watching you deliver some "test" shots.
>
> Does this help? :)

Thanks for your reply. I picked up a very old but undrilled Brunswick
plastic ball at a bargain price. I'm going to have the local pro shop
drill it for me and I'll use that to start. If all goes well and I
want to take it to the next level, I'll look at investing in a more
modern ball.

___________________

If it all goes well, and if the "new" ball fits, you may be able to swing a
15. House balls fit badly, and they require a lot more grip strength than a
properly-fitted ball with inserts and an oval thumb hole. Either way, don't
worry about it.

*Lots* of people use 15s, I've been throwing them for years just because I
have a good source of used 15s, and they just feel more comfortable.

That ball you picked up is probably closer to 35 years old. :-)

Have fun!

-John O




 
Date: 29 Apr 2008 12:08:35
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: Grown man throwing a 14# ball?
> Is there any good reason why I *shouldn't* just stick with 14#?

No, nein, nyet, non, nicht, uh-uh, nope, etc.

Is my answer clear enough? ;)

Be advised that there was an article last year(?) in "Bowling This
Month" mentioning that ** MANY PRO BOWLERS ** are using 14# equipment.

Be aware though: a 14# ball, even one with a "modern" coverstock and a
"power weight", will need a little more "finesse" (i.e., targeting
accuracy, speed control) to deliver strikes because of its' lower
weight compared to 15# or 16#. However, you SHOULD NOT compromise
your body's health, etc. and use a ball that's heavier than what your
body wants to use.

Therefore in conclusion: "knock yourself out" and get yourself the
best 14# you can afford that properly matches your "bowling style".
The Pro Shoperator you visit should be able to recommend a ball after
CAREFULLY watching you deliver some "test" shots.

Does this help? :)