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Date: 26 Nov 2003 09:51:41
From: Piotrek W
Subject: Bowling Shoes
Hi,

I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes. Want
to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1

Peter.




 
Date: 26 Nov 2003 15:47:06
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
All three of those choices have a push off sole and a slide sole that is
not interchangeable, therefore, they are all basically equal. Dexter is
a big, well known company... NXT isn't. The Competitor is no longer in
production (at least it isn't listed on Dexter's site) but can still
easily be found. I'd say, if you want something different from the rest
of the crowd, buy the NXT1. If you want something a little less common,
but still from a very well established company, buy the Competitor. If
you want to be mainstream, buy the SST1. One thing I would take into
consideration though... You can find the SST4 shoes for $79, which have
interchangeable slide soles, VERY much worth the extra $15.

Piotrek W wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes. Want
>to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
>Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
>
>Peter.
>
>
>
>



  
Date: 26 Nov 2003 18:57:17
From: Bowen69jack
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
>>I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes. Want
>>to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
>>Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
>>
>>Peter.


Lind Still the top of the line Don't get carried away with shoes with 8
gadzillion soles and heels you can change around - you will wind up totally
confused

JB


   
Date: 26 Nov 2003 19:37:36
From: Ryan Press \(NI\)
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes

"Bowen69jack" <bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk > wrote in message
news:20031126135717.11586.00000800@mb-m22.aol.com...
> >>I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes.
Want
> >>to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
> >>Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
> >>
> >>Peter.
>
>
> Lind Still the top of the line Don't get carried away with shoes with
8
> gadzillion soles and heels you can change around - you will wind up
totally
> confused

inmh, RUBBISH! How can you get confused by having lots of different sliding
soles?? Sliding too much - move down a few till you get one that works..
sticking? put on a slidier one! I had been to too many tournaments that
the oil condition had no effect on my bowling because i couldn't even get to
the foul line consistantly never mind throw the ball!

Saying lots of sliding soles is to confusing is like saying having more than
one or two bowling balls is too confusing! (i have heard this soo many times
even by league bowlers)

Ryan




    
Date: 26 Nov 2003 19:39:49
From: Ryan Press \(NI\)
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
Should really poof read bwfore posting...


"Ryan Press (NI)" <juan-carlos.lupino@talk21.com > wrote in message
news:Yh7xb.503$1U6.587153@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net...


> inmh > should have obviously been IMHO,

>, RUBBISH! How can you get confused by having lots of different sliding
> soles?? Sliding too much - move down a few till you get one that works..
> sticking? put on a slidier one! I had been to too many tournaments that
> the oil condition had no effect on my bowling because i couldn't even get
to
> the foul line consistantly never mind throw the ball!

And obvioulsy I meant that this was before i bough changable sole shoes...

> Saying lots of sliding soles is to confusing is like saying having more
than
> one or two bowling balls is too confusing! (i have heard this soo many
times
> even by league bowlers)
>
> Ryan
>
>




    
Date: 27 Nov 2003 02:53:34
From: NimBill
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
>From: "Ryan Press \(NI\)" juan-carlos.lupino@talk21.com

>
>inmh, RUBBISH! How can you get confused by having lots of different sliding
>soles?? Sliding too much - move down a few till you get one that works..
>sticking? put on a slidier one! I had been to too many tournaments that
>the oil condition had no effect on my bowling because i couldn't even get to
>the foul line consistantly never mind throw the ball!
>
>Saying lots of sliding soles is to confusing is like saying having more than
>one or two bowling balls is too confusing! (i have heard this soo many times
>even by league bowlers)
>
>Ryan

I am a big fan of Linds shoes and own 3 pairs and one has interchangeable soles
so what is the big deal?

I also own some Dexter shoes which I sometimes wear when the approaches dictate
but I am not a PBA whore so I am not a Dexter slave.

Lind's Bowling Shoes are the best as are Diamond Professional pool tables.

Sample them all but only buy the best.

Bill









    
Date: 27 Nov 2003 16:48:43
From: Bowen69jack
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
>Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
>From: "Ryan Press \(NI\)" juan-carlos.lupino@talk21.com
>Date: 11/26/03 1:37 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <Yh7xb.503$1U6.587153@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net>
>
>
>"Bowen69jack" <bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
>news:20031126135717.11586.00000800@mb-m22.aol.com...
>> >>I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes.
>Want
>> >>to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
>> >>Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
>> >>
>> >>Peter.
>>
>>
>> Lind Still the top of the line Don't get carried away with shoes with
>8
>> gadzillion soles and heels you can change around - you will wind up
>totally
>> confused
>
>inmh, RUBBISH! How can you get confused by having lots of different sliding
>soles?? Sliding too much - move down a few till you get one that works..
>sticking? put on a slidier one! I had been to too many tournaments that
>the oil condition had no effect on my bowling because i couldn't even get to
>the foul line consistantly never mind throw the ball!
>
>Saying lots of sliding soles is to confusing is like saying having more than
>one or two bowling balls is too confusing! (i have heard this soo many times
>even by league bowlers)
>
>Ryan


Ryan when you have been around a few more years you will see many, many bowlers
with choices of shoe soles, shoe heels, different balls etc change them
sometimes 2 or 3 times a game -- driving themselves and others around them
crazy with their constant complaining about approach surfaces, lane conditions
-- in truth most of them don't have a clue

Listen -- How many times have your heard this "If I had just used the other
ball" or "If I had changed shoe soles" or "If I had whatever"

Golf has it right - a limit on the number of clubs you can carry

JB


     
Date: 27 Nov 2003 17:53:20
From: Ryan Press \(NI\)
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes

"Bowen69jack" <bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk > wrote in message
news:20031127114843.05208.00000777@mb-m21.aol.com...

> Ryan when you have been around a few more years you will see many, many
bowlers
> with choices of shoe soles, shoe heels, different balls etc change them
> sometimes 2 or 3 times a game -- driving themselves and others around
them
> crazy with their constant complaining about approach surfaces, lane
conditions
> -- in truth most of them don't have a clue

Actually I have been around long enough... in fact, i think i have been
bowling as long as changeable soles have been in general use, which is the
topic of this thread, so am about as informed as the rest... True, for some
people having lots of different balls, sliding soles / heels, whatever, can
be of no advantage, but they are the same people who will be complaining no
matter what.

> Listen -- How many times have your heard this "If I had just used the
other
> ball" or "If I had changed shoe soles" or "If I had whatever"
>
> Golf has it right - a limit on the number of clubs you can carry

Um, actually this is done in bowling too.. essentially. Go to any big
international, (World Championships, Europeans, Etc.) and you will find
there is a limit on the amount of balls. In both these events this year you
were only allowed 6 Balls total, and after practise had finished no more
were allowed to be added or removed from your "legal lin-up". Is this not
practised in the US? And before anyone says, 6 is not to many... In golf,
which is what you used as a comparison, you are allowed somthing like 10
clubs.

Ryan




      
Date: 27 Nov 2003 18:29:15
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
Golf is 14 clubs. Many of the tournaments that I have bowled here only
allow 4 balls... Some only allow 6 balls... And, some others will allow
you to bring in your entire pro shop. The ability to change soles and
heels to match up with the surface condition of the approach you are on
has absolutely nothing to do with your own personal ability to make the
correct choice. If you are a rock, choices won't fix that. To make the
claim that too many choices are confusing, as Jack has done, is
absolutely absurd. Ask yourself... self, am I a rock? If you answer,
yes... stick to one choice and deal with it. If you say, no, self, I am
not a rock... I "can" identify when I am sliding or sticking to much, or
when a ball is too little, or too much, ball for the condition... then
fill your arsenal will as many weapons as needed to give yourself the
best chance for success. I have been using interchangeable soled shoes
for as long as they have been available, and let me tell you, they have
saved my arse on more occasions than I can count! One that comes to mind
is Nationals in Billings. I had all of the soles and heels that came
with the SST5's when they came out. I need to slide, so I only used the
#6 and #8 slide sole and the #6 and #7 heel. Got to Billings and was
sticking with my #8 sole. Unbeknown to me, Dexter had come out with a
#10 sole. Dave Kent had one and gave it to me... It made all of the
difference in the world! That ability to change my sole made the
difference between going home empty handed and making money in the
tournament and in brackets... It took a while, but I more than repayed
Doug for his generosity. Jack, if you don't want to use interchangeable
sole/heel shoes... don't... I'll be more than happy to use them for you!
;-)

Ryan Press (NI) wrote:

>"Bowen69jack" <bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
>news:20031127114843.05208.00000777@mb-m21.aol.com...
>
>
>
>>Ryan when you have been around a few more years you will see many, many
>>
>>
>bowlers
>
>
>>with choices of shoe soles, shoe heels, different balls etc change them
>>sometimes 2 or 3 times a game -- driving themselves and others around
>>
>>
>them
>
>
>>crazy with their constant complaining about approach surfaces, lane
>>
>>
>conditions
>
>
>>-- in truth most of them don't have a clue
>>
>>
>
>Actually I have been around long enough... in fact, i think i have been
>bowling as long as changeable soles have been in general use, which is the
>topic of this thread, so am about as informed as the rest... True, for some
>people having lots of different balls, sliding soles / heels, whatever, can
>be of no advantage, but they are the same people who will be complaining no
>matter what.
>
>
>
>>Listen -- How many times have your heard this "If I had just used the
>>
>>
>other
>
>
>>ball" or "If I had changed shoe soles" or "If I had whatever"
>>
>>Golf has it right - a limit on the number of clubs you can carry
>>
>>
>
>Um, actually this is done in bowling too.. essentially. Go to any big
>international, (World Championships, Europeans, Etc.) and you will find
>there is a limit on the amount of balls. In both these events this year you
>were only allowed 6 Balls total, and after practise had finished no more
>were allowed to be added or removed from your "legal lin-up". Is this not
>practised in the US? And before anyone says, 6 is not to many... In golf,
>which is what you used as a comparison, you are allowed somthing like 10
>clubs.
>
>Ryan
>
>
>
>



       
Date: 27 Nov 2003 18:54:05
From: Ryan Press \(NI\)
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
Pretty much what i was on about, Tony, only you wrote it better :-D

U could not go back to non changeable soles now... it usually only takes 3
or 4 shots of practise at the beginning of a tournament to sort out my shoe,
and usually not even into practise... by simply sliding your foot on the
approach you can get a pretty good feel for what will work best. If a
bowler is too dum, or want's to fool him/herself by letting on its the
approaches/lanes that are causing the problems, thats a different story, but
for a serious bowler that wants to give them the best chance possible of
winning, anything but changeable soles and heels is a handicap, imho.

Ryan



"Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com > wrote in message
news:%nrxb.5163$Cj4.3755@twister.socal.rr.com...
> Golf is 14 clubs. Many of the tournaments that I have bowled here only
> allow 4 balls... Some only allow 6 balls... And, some others will allow
> you to bring in your entire pro shop. The ability to change soles and
> heels to match up with the surface condition of the approach you are on
> has absolutely nothing to do with your own personal ability to make the
> correct choice. If you are a rock, choices won't fix that. To make the
> claim that too many choices are confusing, as Jack has done, is
> absolutely absurd. Ask yourself... self, am I a rock? If you answer,
> yes... stick to one choice and deal with it. If you say, no, self, I am
> not a rock... I "can" identify when I am sliding or sticking to much, or
> when a ball is too little, or too much, ball for the condition... then
> fill your arsenal will as many weapons as needed to give yourself the
> best chance for success. I have been using interchangeable soled shoes
> for as long as they have been available, and let me tell you, they have
> saved my arse on more occasions than I can count! One that comes to mind
> is Nationals in Billings. I had all of the soles and heels that came
> with the SST5's when they came out. I need to slide, so I only used the
> #6 and #8 slide sole and the #6 and #7 heel. Got to Billings and was
> sticking with my #8 sole. Unbeknown to me, Dexter had come out with a
> #10 sole. Dave Kent had one and gave it to me... It made all of the
> difference in the world! That ability to change my sole made the
> difference between going home empty handed and making money in the
> tournament and in brackets... It took a while, but I more than repayed
> Doug for his generosity. Jack, if you don't want to use interchangeable
> sole/heel shoes... don't... I'll be more than happy to use them for you!
> ;-)
>
> Ryan Press (NI) wrote:
>
> >"Bowen69jack" <bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
> >news:20031127114843.05208.00000777@mb-m21.aol.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >>Ryan when you have been around a few more years you will see many, many
> >>
> >>
> >bowlers
> >
> >
> >>with choices of shoe soles, shoe heels, different balls etc change them
> >>sometimes 2 or 3 times a game -- driving themselves and others around
> >>
> >>
> >them
> >
> >
> >>crazy with their constant complaining about approach surfaces, lane
> >>
> >>
> >conditions
> >
> >
> >>-- in truth most of them don't have a clue
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Actually I have been around long enough... in fact, i think i have been
> >bowling as long as changeable soles have been in general use, which is
the
> >topic of this thread, so am about as informed as the rest... True, for
some
> >people having lots of different balls, sliding soles / heels, whatever,
can
> >be of no advantage, but they are the same people who will be complaining
no
> >matter what.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Listen -- How many times have your heard this "If I had just used the
> >>
> >>
> >other
> >
> >
> >>ball" or "If I had changed shoe soles" or "If I had whatever"
> >>
> >>Golf has it right - a limit on the number of clubs you can carry
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Um, actually this is done in bowling too.. essentially. Go to any big
> >international, (World Championships, Europeans, Etc.) and you will find
> >there is a limit on the amount of balls. In both these events this year
you
> >were only allowed 6 Balls total, and after practise had finished no more
> >were allowed to be added or removed from your "legal lin-up". Is this
not
> >practised in the US? And before anyone says, 6 is not to many... In
golf,
> >which is what you used as a comparison, you are allowed somthing like 10
> >clubs.
> >
> >Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




       
Date: 27 Nov 2003 19:35:08
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
Ummm... I repayed "Dave" not "Doug", and no, Doug, the check is not in
the mail! ;-)

Tony R Smith wrote:

> Golf is 14 clubs. Many of the tournaments that I have bowled here only
> allow 4 balls... Some only allow 6 balls... And, some others will
> allow you to bring in your entire pro shop. The ability to change
> soles and heels to match up with the surface condition of the approach
> you are on has absolutely nothing to do with your own personal ability
> to make the correct choice. If you are a rock, choices won't fix that.
> To make the claim that too many choices are confusing, as Jack has
> done, is absolutely absurd. Ask yourself... self, am I a rock? If you
> answer, yes... stick to one choice and deal with it. If you say, no,
> self, I am not a rock... I "can" identify when I am sliding or
> sticking to much, or when a ball is too little, or too much, ball for
> the condition... then fill your arsenal will as many weapons as needed
> to give yourself the best chance for success. I have been using
> interchangeable soled shoes for as long as they have been available,
> and let me tell you, they have saved my arse on more occasions than I
> can count! One that comes to mind is Nationals in Billings. I had all
> of the soles and heels that came with the SST5's when they came out. I
> need to slide, so I only used the #6 and #8 slide sole and the #6 and
> #7 heel. Got to Billings and was sticking with my #8 sole. Unbeknown
> to me, Dexter had come out with a #10 sole. Dave Kent had one and gave
> it to me... It made all of the difference in the world! That ability
> to change my sole made the difference between going home empty handed
> and making money in the tournament and in brackets... It took a while,
> but I more than repayed Doug for his generosity. Jack, if you don't
> want to use interchangeable sole/heel shoes... don't... I'll be more
> than happy to use them for you! ;-)
>
> Ryan Press (NI) wrote:
>
>> "Bowen69jack" <bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
>> news:20031127114843.05208.00000777@mb-m21.aol.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> Ryan when you have been around a few more years you will see many, many
>>>
>>
>> bowlers
>>
>>
>>> with choices of shoe soles, shoe heels, different balls etc change them
>>> sometimes 2 or 3 times a game -- driving themselves and others around
>>>
>>
>> them
>>
>>
>>> crazy with their constant complaining about approach surfaces, lane
>>>
>>
>> conditions
>>
>>
>>> -- in truth most of them don't have a clue
>>>
>>
>>
>> Actually I have been around long enough... in fact, i think i have been
>> bowling as long as changeable soles have been in general use, which
>> is the
>> topic of this thread, so am about as informed as the rest... True,
>> for some
>> people having lots of different balls, sliding soles / heels,
>> whatever, can
>> be of no advantage, but they are the same people who will be
>> complaining no
>> matter what.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Listen -- How many times have your heard this "If I had just used the
>>>
>>
>> other
>>
>>
>>> ball" or "If I had changed shoe soles" or "If I had whatever"
>>>
>>> Golf has it right - a limit on the number of clubs you can carry
>>>
>>
>>
>> Um, actually this is done in bowling too.. essentially. Go to any big
>> international, (World Championships, Europeans, Etc.) and you will find
>> there is a limit on the amount of balls. In both these events this
>> year you
>> were only allowed 6 Balls total, and after practise had finished no more
>> were allowed to be added or removed from your "legal lin-up". Is
>> this not
>> practised in the US? And before anyone says, 6 is not to many... In
>> golf,
>> which is what you used as a comparison, you are allowed somthing like 10
>> clubs.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



      
Date: 27 Nov 2003 22:53:03
From: Bowen69jack
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
>golf,
>which is what you used as a comparison, you are allowed somthing like 10
>clubs.

Was 14 - I guess it still is


       
Date: 27 Nov 2003 23:11:34
From: Ryan Press \(NI\)
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
Yeh I don't play golf much - the point was that it is also a sport were
different types of essentially the same piece of equipement can be used for
essentially the same job. You could use just 2 clubs to save getting
"confused", but you would be mad to.........

Ryan



"Bowen69jack" <bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk > wrote in message
news:20031127175303.01975.00000926@mb-m16.aol.com...
> >golf,
> >which is what you used as a comparison, you are allowed somthing like 10
> >clubs.
>
> Was 14 - I guess it still is




        
Date: 28 Nov 2003 01:32:07
From: Ron Wilbanks
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
Anyone have any results good or bad with the ABS Tour Ultra's?


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Date: 28 Nov 2003 17:37:08
From: Tony D.
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
>Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
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>From: bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk (Bowen69jack)
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>Date: 27 Nov 2003 22:53:03 GMT
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>
>
>
>>golf,
>>which is what you used as a comparison, you are allowed somthing like 10
>>clubs.
>
>Was 14 - I guess it still is

14 clubs is the USGA, PGA, and R&A limit. Imho 6 balls is still far too many
balls to have on the return; 2 is sufficient. Adjusting your stroke to the
condition requires far more skill than adjusting the ball.


Tony D.





        
Date: 28 Nov 2003 17:47:08
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
On the return... yes it is. Available for use... not at all, IMNSHO.

Tony D. wrote:

>>Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
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>>From: bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk (Bowen69jack)
>>Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
>>Date: 27 Nov 2003 22:53:03 GMT
>>References: <bSqxb.229$SN1.407980@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net>
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>>Message-ID: <20031127175303.01975.00000926@mb-m16.aol.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>golf,
>>>which is what you used as a comparison, you are allowed somthing like 10
>>>clubs.
>>>
>>>
>>Was 14 - I guess it still is
>>
>>
>
>14 clubs is the USGA, PGA, and R&A limit. Imho 6 balls is still far too many
>balls to have on the return; 2 is sufficient. Adjusting your stroke to the
>condition requires far more skill than adjusting the ball.
>
>
>Tony D.
>
>
>
>
>



         
Date: 29 Nov 2003 01:00:59
From: Ryan Press \(NI\)
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
Exactly Tony - i dont think any one is talking about using 6 balls per game
or anything.. more often than not a bowler will bring about 6 balls with
them to the centre, and use maybe a maximum of 3 throughout the tournament,
and the person that wins will often be the one that decides what ball will
work best the soonest! :-) In a tournament A year ago, I carried 6 balls to
the lane very time i bowled, yet used the same strikeball for every frame of
every game for the duration of the 3 day tournament, and played really
well. :-)

Ryan



"Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com > wrote in message
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> On the return... yes it is. Available for use... not at all, IMNSHO.
>
> Tony D. wrote:
>
> >>Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
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> >>Lines: 5
> >>X-Admin: news@aol.com
> >>From: bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk (Bowen69jack)
> >>Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
> >>Date: 27 Nov 2003 22:53:03 GMT
> >>References: <bSqxb.229$SN1.407980@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net>
> >>Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> >>Message-ID: <20031127175303.01975.00000926@mb-m16.aol.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>golf,
> >>>which is what you used as a comparison, you are allowed somthing like
10
> >>>clubs.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Was 14 - I guess it still is
> >>
> >>
> >
> >14 clubs is the USGA, PGA, and R&A limit. Imho 6 balls is still far too
many
> >balls to have on the return; 2 is sufficient. Adjusting your stroke to
the
> >condition requires far more skill than adjusting the ball.
> >
> >
> >Tony D.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




    
Date: 07 Dec 2003 01:49:39
From: Tony Melendez
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
I agree here...

I have the Dyno-thane Tour Ultras and they have many options.
However, once you find your favorite combination, you won't change too
often unless you need to. One of the benefts of the interchangeable
soles/heels is the lifespan of the shoes themselves. Bascially, once
your soles or heels wear out, you just get a new set.

I know I'm supposed to say I think the Tour Ultras are the best, but I
really do think so. At first I had a hard time adjusting to the new
heels, but I did. And I also know that ther are several new heels in
the works from Dyno-thane, like an all leather heel and a ripple heel
like the Dexters. Dyno-thane already offers the adjust-a-heel which
is a nice tweak to your slide and has a completely different feel.

Bowling regionals I find myself making heel changes, but I never
change the soles.

Tony M
http://www.allBowling.com
Regional Staff: Dyno-thane and Turbo 2-N-1 Grips




On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:37:36 -0000, "Ryan Press \(NI\)"
<juan-carlos.lupino@talk21.com > wrote:


>inmh, RUBBISH! How can you get confused by having lots of different sliding
>soles?? Sliding too much - move down a few till you get one that works..
>sticking? put on a slidier one! I had been to too many tournaments that
>the oil condition had no effect on my bowling because i couldn't even get to
>the foul line consistantly never mind throw the ball!
>
>Saying lots of sliding soles is to confusing is like saying having more than
>one or two bowling balls is too confusing! (i have heard this soo many times
>even by league bowlers)
>
>Ryan
>



   
Date: 26 Nov 2003 21:44:15
From: w.g.
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
Somewhere around 26 Nov 2003 18:57:17 GMT, Bowen69jack was brave
enough to write:

>>>I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes. Want
>>>to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
>>>Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
>>>
>>>Peter.
>
>
>Lind Still the top of the line Don't get carried away with shoes with 8
>gadzillion soles and heels you can change around - you will wind up totally
>confused
>
Linds makes a very good quality shoe but so does Dexter. The big
difference in the 2 brands is foot width. Dexters tend to be wider
where as Linds tend to be narrower. As far as the sole changing both
brands make shoe versions where you can change and no neither is real
complicated.

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Date: 27 Nov 2003 05:05:52
From: Evil Joe Schmuckatelli
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:57:17 UTC, bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk (Bowen69jack)
wrote:

> >>I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes. Want
> >>to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
> >>Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
> >>
> >>Peter.
>
>
> Lind Still the top of the line Don't get carried away with shoes with 8
> gadzillion soles and heels you can change around - you will wind up totally
> confused

I recently had a conversation with one of the other mechanics -- as of late,
on the weekends he's been applying a slide solution when he buffs the
approaches. With my low-end Dexters and nothing else, it's still not enough.
But when I put on the felt sole cover that I normally use, it's too slick. I
remarked that it looked like I was going to have to shell out to get those
$150 Linds with the changeable buttons on the bottom (the local pro seems to
like them, because one can tweak the amount of slide in smaller increments
than can be done with the higher-end Dexters). Said mechanic didn't seem to
like them, however, and recommended against them.

Opinions? (Tony, I want your input as well.)



------------------------------------------------+------------------
"One World, One Web, One Program." -- Microsoft


    
Date: 27 Nov 2003 06:55:22
From: ALSPROSHOP
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
>""Evil Joe" Schmuckatelli" wrote:


snip
>But when I put on the felt sole cover that I normally use, it's too slick. I
>
>remarked that it looked like I was going to have to shell out to get those
>$150 Linds with the changeable buttons on the bottom (the local pro seems to
>like them, because one can tweak the amount of slide in smaller increments
>than can be done with the higher-end Dexters). Said mechanic didn't seem to
>like them, however, and recommended against them.
>
>Opinions?

I use lind extras's. have 4 buttons on sole and 4 buttons on heel. Absolutely
incredible options, by just switching 2 of the 4 available cleats amone the 4
positions on the sole only. I have gotten quite familiar with just swapping 2
different textures in just 2 of the "holes"
I have used sst 4's, they are very comfortable, but I (1) didn't have quite
the slide I wanted, either too much or too little and (2) I wear the side of
the right toe off from my finishing position (the rubber is very soft, I guess,
because I do not have the trouble with my Linds)
Al Whiteman
Executive Director , Portland Bowling Association
www.pbabowling.com
"Time spent bowling is never deducted from one's life span"




    
Date: 27 Nov 2003 07:13:36
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
It is really personal opinion. As w.g. said, Dexters tend to fit wider
feet better than Linds. Linds are of the same quality as really good
dress shoes and will literally last forever, along with that comes a
stiffer overall feel. If you typically wear dress shoes you might like
the Linds better. If you are more into comfortable tennis shoes you will
probably find that the Dexters feel better. Both shoes offer changeable
soles that will give you about the same options in slide or stick. I
personally prefer the Dexter shoes over the Linds because they are more
comfortable on my wide feet. I am still using a pair of SST5's. Maybe
sometime in the near future I might pony up for a new pair of SST6's,
but I really don't need to. If you are using low-end Dexters (less than
SST4's), Joe, and like the feel but want more slide control, you might
want to give SST4's (or higher) a try... It really does make a HUGE
difference.

Evil Joe Schmuckatelli wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:57:17 UTC, bowen69jack@aol.comnojunk (Bowen69jack)
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>>>I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes. Want
>>>>to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
>>>>Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
>>>>
>>>>Peter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>Lind Still the top of the line Don't get carried away with shoes with 8
>>gadzillion soles and heels you can change around - you will wind up totally
>>confused
>>
>>
>
>I recently had a conversation with one of the other mechanics -- as of late,
>on the weekends he's been applying a slide solution when he buffs the
>approaches. With my low-end Dexters and nothing else, it's still not enough.
>But when I put on the felt sole cover that I normally use, it's too slick. I
>remarked that it looked like I was going to have to shell out to get those
>$150 Linds with the changeable buttons on the bottom (the local pro seems to
>like them, because one can tweak the amount of slide in smaller increments
>than can be done with the higher-end Dexters). Said mechanic didn't seem to
>like them, however, and recommended against them.
>
>Opinions? (Tony, I want your input as well.)
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------+------------------
>"One World, One Web, One Program." -- Microsoft


     
Date: 28 Nov 2003 17:13:08
From: Tony D.
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
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>It is really personal opinion. As w.g. said, Dexters tend to fit wider
>feet better than Linds. Linds are of the same quality as really good
>dress shoes and will literally last forever, along with that comes a
>stiffer overall feel. If you typically wear dress shoes you might like
>the Linds better. If you are more into comfortable tennis shoes you will
>probably find that the Dexters feel better. Both shoes offer changeable
>soles that will give you about the same options in slide or stick. I
>personally prefer the Dexter shoes over the Linds because they are more
>comfortable on my wide feet. I am still using a pair of SST5's. Maybe
>sometime in the near future I might pony up for a new pair of SST6's,
>but I really don't need to. If you are using low-end Dexters (less than
>SST4's), Joe, and like the feel but want more slide control, you might
>want to give SST4's (or higher) a try... It really does make a HUGE
>difference.

<snip >

This was a thoughtful and intelligent response, imho.


Tony D.





    
Date: 27 Nov 2003 14:54:29
From: Lisa
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
Evil Joe wrote:
>I
>remarked that it looked like I was going to have to shell out to get those
>$150 Linds with the changeable buttons on the bottom (the local pro seems to
>like them, because one can tweak the amount of slide in smaller increments
>than can be done with the higher-end Dexters).

I have the Linds Exxtras and love them. I bowl on both wood and synthetic
approaches and in Michigan in summer when the humidity is a million percent out
I can put the slickest "hockey pucks" in the slide shoe and still feel like I
can bowl with a normal slide.

The wood approach house has been slick since it got cold here and I switch two
hockey pucks to help slow me down a bit.

(I'm sure the hockey puck things have a real name, but they remind me of mini
hockey pucks and I like hockey, so there ya go).

I guess it comes down to personal preference. Bowlers do the Dexters vs. Linds
thing like we have Michigan vs. Ohio State around here ;)

*~Lisa~*
I don't get hot flashes. It's just my inner child playing with matches.
ICQ #41686252
http://www.mapleleafs.com/


     
Date: 28 Nov 2003 04:54:12
From: NimBill
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
>From: eyeshot300@aol.comTimbits (Lisa)

>I have the Linds Exxtras and love them. I bowl on both wood and synthetic
>approaches and in Michigan in summer when the humidity is a million percent
>out
>I can put the slickest "hockey pucks" in the slide shoe and still feel like I
>can bowl with a normal slide.
>
>The wood approach house has been slick since it got cold here and I switch
>two
>hockey pucks to help slow me down a bit.
>
>(I'm sure the hockey puck things have a real name, but they remind me of mini
>hockey pucks and I like hockey, so there ya go).
>
>I guess it comes down to personal preference. Bowlers do the Dexters vs.
>Linds
>thing like we have Michigan vs. Ohio State around here ;)
>
>*~Lisa~*
>I don't get hot flashes. It's just my inner child playing with matches.
>ICQ #41686252
>http://www.mapleleafs.com/
>
>
>
>

I've been calling those things hockey pucks for years. I think Lind's calls
them inserts and I just ordered another set.

Bill in New Mexico









    
Date: 28 Nov 2003 04:48:40
From: NimBill
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
>From: ""Evil Joe" Schmuckatelli" joeschmuck@KILL.SPAMFORD.

>I recently had a conversation with one of the other mechanics -- as of late,
>on the weekends he's been applying a slide solution when he buffs the
>approaches. With my low-end Dexters and nothing else, it's still not enough.
>
>But when I put on the felt sole cover that I normally use, it's too slick. I
>
>remarked that it looked like I was going to have to shell out to get those
>$150 Linds with the changeable buttons on the bottom (the local pro seems to
>like them, because one can tweak the amount of slide in smaller increments
>than can be done with the higher-end Dexters). Said mechanic didn't seem to
>like them, however, and recommended against them.
>
>Opinions? (Tony, I want your input as well.)

I ain't Tony but I own Several pairs of bowling shoes. I have an older pair of
Lind's with the hockey pucks in the sole only but not the heel. I love them and
they are my everyday shoes when bowling. About 7 or 8 years old and I rarely
have to change the hockey pucks.

I have two older pairs of Lind's shoes I occassionaly wear and both are at
least 15 or 20 years old.

I also have a pair of Dexter SSTs that is about 5 years old that is almost too
worn out to use but once in a while it is the right shoe to wear.

My other go to pair are Endicott Johnson shoes which I believe are no longer
available and are at least as old as my Lind's but every bit as good.

Dexter shoes are very good but for a glide and slide bowler like me just but
are not as durable as Lind's or Endicott Johnson shoes. I have just worn out a
number of pairs of Dexter shoes but have never worn out a pair of Lind's.

Plant and shoot bowlers would be better off with a new pair of sneakers from
K-Mart or Wal-Mart because slide means nothing to them.

Bill in New Mexico


> Save a cow. Eat a vegetarian!
>









 
Date: 26 Nov 2003 18:34:43
From: Greg B.
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
If you are restricting yourself to under $70, then K-Mart has Brunswick
bowling shoes for about $40. Enough grip to keep from slipping and falling
on your rear-end (personal experience with house shoes) and enough slide for
a good release.

--
Greg B.
Happy to be an owner of an '01 Mustang Vert.
Pics on my personal website: http://home.comcast.net/~80ktrkr/
Mods: nothing of significance, just more of comfort than real mods.


"Piotrek W" <piotrek_w_@poczta.onet.pl > wrote in message
news:bq1p73$gmv$1@news.onet.pl...
> Hi,
>
> I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes.
Want
> to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
> Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
>
> Peter.
>
>




 
Date: 26 Nov 2003 13:23:22
From: ferret300
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
There all all kinds of Dexter SST IVs on ebay for your price range.
They are great shoes with interchangeable heals and soles.
This is the 5th season for mine and they are just now starting to wear out.
I probably average 40-50 games a week.

http://tinyurl.com/womz


"Piotrek W" <piotrek_w_@poczta.onet.pl > wrote in message
news:bq1p73$gmv$1@news.onet.pl...
> Hi,
>
> I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes.
Want
> to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
> Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
>
> Peter.
>
>




  
Date: 27 Nov 2003 07:21:28
From: Tony R Smith
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
SST4's are interchangeable soles only. SST5's and SST6's include
interchangeable heels.

ferret300 wrote:

>There all all kinds of Dexter SST IVs on ebay for your price range.
>They are great shoes with interchangeable heals and soles.
>This is the 5th season for mine and they are just now starting to wear out.
>I probably average 40-50 games a week.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/womz
>
>
>"Piotrek W" <piotrek_w_@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
>news:bq1p73$gmv$1@news.onet.pl...
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes.
>>
>>
>Want
>
>
>>to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
>>Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
>>
>>Peter.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



   
Date: 28 Nov 2003 02:26:02
From: ferret300
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
whoops! typo, thanks for the correction

"Tony R Smith" <tonyrsmith@myrealbox.com > wrote in message
news:YBhxb.3535$Cj4.783@twister.socal.rr.com...
> SST4's are interchangeable soles only. SST5's and SST6's include
> interchangeable heels.
>
> ferret300 wrote:
>
> >There all all kinds of Dexter SST IVs on ebay for your price range.
> >They are great shoes with interchangeable heals and soles.
> >This is the 5th season for mine and they are just now starting to wear
out.
> >I probably average 40-50 games a week.
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/womz
> >
> >
> >"Piotrek W" <piotrek_w_@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
> >news:bq1p73$gmv$1@news.onet.pl...
> >
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes.
> >>
> >>
> >Want
> >
> >
> >>to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
> >>Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
> >>
> >>Peter.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




 
Date: 27 Nov 2003 02:44:14
From: NimBill
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
>From: "Piotrek W"

>Hi,
>
>I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes. Want
>to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
>Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1

I wouldn't buy any of them because my 15 year old Linds are better.

Bill









 
Date: 27 Nov 2003 13:56:28
From: Dave Kent
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
I got a pair of Dexter SST V's from buddiesproshop.com for $70, but I just
looked and that promotion seems to be over. Check around for the deals. It
changes from day to day.

Piotrek W wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have some questions because i want to buy my first new bowling shoes. Want
> to spend under 70$. What is ihe best choice?
> Dexter SST1, Dexter Competitor or mayby NXT1
>
> Peter.

--
For you to be successful, sacrifices must be made. It's better
that they are made by others but failing that, you'll
have to make them yourself.
-Rita Mae Brown-




 
Date: 29 Nov 2003 22:46:40
From: SWX322
Subject: Re: Bowling Shoes
Buy whatever shoes look and feel the best to you. If they don't have
interchangeable soles and you want that, go to a shoe cobbler and have him
remove the slide sole and glue velcro to the bottom. Then purchase Dexter soles
that you may need. I have done that to several shoe, and it works quite well.

Good Luck,

Scott