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Date: 27 Aug 2008 09:17:31
From: John O
Subject: Ball Reviews
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Hey, where are all the decent ball reviews...not the "I shot farging great with ths balll" BS stuff, but the sites where they try to give some useful advice about what situations are best suited to certain balls. FWIW, I recently acquired a couple used Ebonite balls, The One and Total NV. My arsenal is lacking a deep inside ball, will one of these do the trick. I've got a classic tweener release; medium speed and medium revs. What little I found about them last night said they lose their power pretty quickly...what's that all about? -John O
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Date: 27 Aug 2008 19:11:55
From: litefrozen
Subject: Re: Ball Reviews
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John O wrote: > Hey, where are all the decent ball reviews...not the "I shot farging great > with ths balll" BS stuff, but the sites where they try to give some useful > advice about what situations are best suited to certain balls. > > FWIW, I recently acquired a couple used Ebonite balls, The One and Total NV. > My arsenal is lacking a deep inside ball, will one of these do the trick. > I've got a classic tweener release; medium speed and medium revs. What > little I found about them last night said they lose their power pretty > quickly...what's that all about? > > -John O > > Try this web site http://www.ballreviews.com/
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Date: 27 Aug 2008 13:05:15
From: PromptJock
Subject: Re: Ball Reviews
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On Aug 27, 6:17=A0am, "John O" <johnospama...@lottaspamheathkit.com > wrote: > Hey, where are all the decent ball reviews...not the "I shot farging grea= t > with ths balll" BS stuff, but the sites where they try to give some usefu= l > advice about what situations are best suited to certain balls. > > FWIW, I recently acquired a couple used Ebonite balls, The One and Total = NV. > My arsenal is lacking a deep inside ball, will one of these do the trick. > I've got a classic tweener release; medium speed and medium revs. What > little I found about them last night said they lose their power pretty > quickly...what's that all about? I suggest visiting www.buddiesproshop.com and peruse all the VIDEOS they have on the balls they carry. Just watching their "test drivers" deliver the balls is impressive AND the camera angles are pretty good in showing the ball's motion down the lane and such. NOTE: take what you see with a few "grains of salt" as the "test driver" MAY NOT represent your delivery style (nonetheless - they ARE informative!). Next, peruse the web sites of the BALL MANUFACTURERS and study their "propaganda sheets" on "this is what this ball MIGHT DO on 'such-and- such' oil condition", drilling suggestions, etc. Again, while you may not find information that's "exactly like you", what IS there is worth comparing to how YOUR BALLS are currently drilled - if nothing else, it'll give you some insight as to WHY your driller "drilled like he/ she did, etc." As to "losing power": that's a function of ball coverstock characteristics, lane conditions bowled on, and bowler's delivery style. If you bowl on a VERY DRY lane, using a ball with a "grippy" coverstock, and you're unable to impart sufficient SPEED (forward velocity) and REVOLUTIONS at the release, the ball will stop hooking and start "rolling" sooner than it should, resulting in loss of ball speed. Similar to rolling a ball on HARDWOOD FLOORS vs. SHAG CARPETING: which ball will ROLL FARTHER when rolled with a certain amount of "oomph!" behind it, and which surface requires you to impart "more OOMPH!" to the ball so it'll roll as far as you want, while still having enough "SMACK!" when it arrives at what you're trying to knock down, etc.? Finally, please define what "deep, inside" means to you and can you name a Pro Bowler whose release/delivery style is SIMILAR (*though not "exactly") to yours? that might help us a little with your ball question. :) That's all I have to offer and I hope it's close to what you're looking for? :)
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Date: 27 Aug 2008 21:20:56
From: John O
Subject: Re: Ball Reviews
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"PromptJock" <102151.3223@compuserve.com > wrote in message news:9f404408-c9be-442d-bc1e-445becc4fbc9@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... On Aug 27, 6:17 am, "John O" <johnospama...@lottaspamheathkit.com > wrote: > Hey, where are all the decent ball reviews...not the "I shot farging great > with ths balll" BS stuff, but the sites where they try to give some useful > advice about what situations are best suited to certain balls. > > FWIW, I recently acquired a couple used Ebonite balls, The One and Total > NV. > My arsenal is lacking a deep inside ball, will one of these do the trick. > I've got a classic tweener release; medium speed and medium revs. What > little I found about them last night said they lose their power pretty > quickly...what's that all about? I suggest visiting www.buddiesproshop.com and peruse all the VIDEOS they have on the balls they carry. Just watching their "test drivers" deliver the balls is impressive AND the camera angles are pretty good in showing the ball's motion down the lane and such. NOTE: take what you see with a few "grains of salt" as the "test driver" MAY NOT represent your delivery style (nonetheless - they ARE informative!). Next, peruse the web sites of the BALL MANUFACTURERS and study their "propaganda sheets" on "this is what this ball MIGHT DO on 'such-and- such' oil condition", drilling suggestions, etc. Again, while you may not find information that's "exactly like you", what IS there is worth comparing to how YOUR BALLS are currently drilled - if nothing else, it'll give you some insight as to WHY your driller "drilled like he/ she did, etc." As to "losing power": that's a function of ball coverstock characteristics, lane conditions bowled on, and bowler's delivery style. If you bowl on a VERY DRY lane, using a ball with a "grippy" coverstock, and you're unable to impart sufficient SPEED (forward velocity) and REVOLUTIONS at the release, the ball will stop hooking and start "rolling" sooner than it should, resulting in loss of ball speed. Similar to rolling a ball on HARDWOOD FLOORS vs. SHAG CARPETING: which ball will ROLL FARTHER when rolled with a certain amount of "oomph!" behind it, and which surface requires you to impart "more OOMPH!" to the ball so it'll roll as far as you want, while still having enough "SMACK!" when it arrives at what you're trying to knock down, etc.? Finally, please define what "deep, inside" means to you and can you name a Pro Bowler whose release/delivery style is SIMILAR (*though not "exactly") to yours? that might help us a little with your ball question. :) That's all I have to offer and I hope it's close to what you're looking for? :) ________________________________________________ Yeah, that's real close. The guys in the videos I watched release pretty close to how I throw it, my PAP isn't far off theirs. Thanks, that was useful. I don't see enough pros to make a comparison. Conditions I'm going to see this year will be medium house shots...a place recognized for better scores than anywhere else in the area. Now it's my turn to post some stupid big scores. :-) Hey, it's a mainly fun league. Right now, I can't be effective when I cross ~20 at the arrows and deeper. I don't have the hand to turn my ball hard enough to came back, the balls I have are mainly down and in stuff. The last 'go long and snap' ball I had was a SuperBeast, and at the time it was too jumpy for me to control. It's long gone now. -John O
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